Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-29 Thread Michael Foster
Harry Veeder wrote: > Michael Foster wrote: >> Actually, I think that problem that has sickened science >> is not the craving for certainty. It is the compulsion to >> consensus that has caused the outrageous behavior of the >> "scientific community" toward its greatest innovators. >> Consen

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Michael Foster wrote: > Actually, I think that problem that has sickened science > is not the craving for certainty. It is the compulsion to > consensus that has caused the outrageous behavior of the > "scientific community" toward its greatest innovators. > Consensus science is, after all, not s

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-28 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:13:58 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] >Actually, I think that problem that has sickened science >is not the craving for certainty. It is the compulsion to >consensus that has caused the outrageous behavior of the >"scientific community" toward it

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Foster
Robin wrote: > Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is > why we are so unwilling to give it up just when we > think we have hold of a large chunk of it. > Of course in reality, there is no such thing as > certainty, so our struggle is either endless, or > we settle for delusion. A

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:21:04 -0500: Hi, >From: Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is why we are so >> unwilling to give it up just when we think we have hold of a large >> chunk of it. >> Of course in

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is why we are so > unwilling to give it up just when we think we have hold of a large > chunk of it. > Of course in reality, there is no such thing as certainty, so our >

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to William Beaty's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:28:48 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] > Ridiculed, vindicated scientific discoveries > http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html According to the Russians, T. Gold got his theories from them. [snip] >I think we have "Emperor's clothes effect" to th

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Zell, Chris wrote: > Does anyone see anything DRAMATICALLY WRONG with this event? They > describe the discovery as "bloody obvious" and say that they were > "shunned" and labeled as "eccentric". More than that, decades of > "modern medicine" fail to correctly identify the s

The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-23 Thread Zell, Chris
See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4307826.stm So, two guys get a Nobel prize for discovering that a bacterial infection causes ulcers. A simple antibiotic cures the problem. Does anyone see anything DRAMATICALLY WRONG with this event? They describe the discovery as "bloody obvious"