Re: [vox-tech] binary equivalence of two directories

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 16 Mar 05, 10:42 PM, Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wednesday 16 March 2005 10:26 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: What's the quick and dirty way of using md5sum or sha1sum to check the equivalence of the files residing in two directories? I suppose I can whip up a Perl script to

Re: [vox-tech] stale NFS file (was: binary equivalence of two directories)

2005-03-17 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: [...] Another question (with my tail between my legs). When I do this, I get many Stale NFS file handle messaages: $ diff -r project2/ /dvd/ diff: project2/Getting Started with Corel Painter 8/data/movies/chap05: Stale NFS file handle

Re: [vox-tech] stale NFS file (was: binary equivalence of two directories)

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 17 Mar 05, 8:03 AM, Jeff Newmiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: [...] Another question (with my tail between my legs). When I do this, I get many Stale NFS file handle messaages: $ diff -r project2/ /dvd/ diff:

Re: [vox-tech] stale NFS file (was: binary equivalence of two directories)

2005-03-17 Thread Josh Parsons
Any file that diff reported Stale NFS file handle, I can cat, edit, play,... I don't even know how to diagnose the cause. I've no idea either what's wrong, but if I were you, I'd start by seeing what syscall diff is using (and cat etc. aren't) that provokes the error. Try running your diff

Re: [vox-tech] stale NFS file (was: binary equivalence of two directories)

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 17 Mar 05, 8:54 AM, Josh Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Any file that diff reported Stale NFS file handle, I can cat, edit, play,... I don't even know how to diagnose the cause. I've no idea either what's wrong, but if I were you, I'd start by seeing what syscall diff is using

[vox-tech] seq command on Mac OS X

2005-03-17 Thread Dylan Beaudette
ok... this might be a dumb question... but as my home machine is now an OS X machine, a few little things are driving me nuts... the lack of the seq command is one of those things. I have tried searching for the source code for the version that is normally found on most normal *NIX

Re: [vox-tech] seq command on Mac OS X

2005-03-17 Thread Micah Cowan
Dylan Beaudette wrote: ok... this might be a dumb question... but as my home machine is now an OS X machine, a few little things are driving me nuts... the lack of the seq command is one of those things. I have tried searching for the source code for the version that is normally found on

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:33:06PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon 14 Mar 05, 9:31 AM, Bob Scofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Of course I do not expect much sympathy from Debian users for this type of computing. But after Ken's answer to my question about apt

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
First: don't start a new thready by replying to a message from an existing one. Your email headers will cause your message to appear in the other (unrelated) thread. Compose a new message and address it to list instead. on Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:19:02PM -0800, John Wojnaroski ([EMAIL

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:33:06PM -0500, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon 14 Mar 05, 9:31 AM, Bob Scofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Of course I do not expect much sympathy from Debian users for this type of computing. But after Ken's answer to my

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread David Hummel
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 01:28:27PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:42:41PM -0800, Mark K. Kim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But this works only if the remote computer has a ssh server with X forwarding enabled, which it is by default on most systems I've seen.

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread John Wojnaroski
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:42:41PM -0800, Mark K. Kim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, John Wojnaroski wrote: [snip] I'm trying to login into a remote host and have the host export the screen display back to my machine

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Ken Bloom
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:28:27 -0800 Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:42:41PM -0800, Mark K. Kim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: $xhost + BAD MARK. NO DONUT. OR COOKIE. Please do NOT suggest people try this, particularly... *but* this will work

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:42:41PM -0800, Mark K. Kim [censored] wrote: [snip] $xhost + BAD MARK. NO DONUT. OR COOKIE. Lols. In theory, you're right that it's a bad advice. In practice, it's not a problem, especially for: 1. Brief

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 17 Mar 05, 2:26 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My autoshop teacher once told me that a good mechanic always uses the correct wrench for the correct nut, so a good mechanic should never use the monkey wrench (a.k.a. adjustable wrench.) But a good mechanic, he added, would

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Micah Cowan
Mark K. Kim wrote: BTW, John, you can add a hostname after the '+' sign to allow connections only from that computer. Example: $xhost +remote_host_ip_or_name which would be the next next best thing to ssh -X and MIT magic cookie thingy. This is still fairly insecure on the internet, however, as

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Bob Scofield
On Thursday 17 March 2005 02:03 pm, Jonathan Stickel wrote: In danger of starting a flame war, I am going to give my view of Debian. Debian is in fact based on wonderful ideas, but it has horrible implementation. Seeing as how I both love and hate Debian, a flame war would be difficult for

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 17 Mar 05, 2:56 PM, Bob Scofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thursday 17 March 2005 02:03 pm, Jonathan Stickel wrote: Debian's installation process is difficult and requires intimate knowledge of how linux works. In order to have an up-to-date system, you risk instability (with

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Datapoint: I have tried, and failed, to install Gentoo twice. I never failed to install Debian. Yep, I know, everyone is shaped by their experiences. I've tried, and failed, with Debian about 3 times. The last time was about the time I first tried Gentoo... which

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Rick Moen
Closely related topic: Opening an X11 client as a user different from the one one is logged in as. (The typical situation is that you wish to open some -- preferably small and conservatively coded -- X11 app with root-user authority, while logged in as a non-root user.) I've collected a list of

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 02:11:06PM -0800, John Wojnaroski wrote: As far as I can tell, this may be one of the few cockpit simulations using Linux as the platform rather than all that MS stuff... Additionall info on the flightgear website under the projects page

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 01:21:52PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: - Mark Kim's xhost+ advice. DON'T DO THIS. EVER. Google for the reasons, they're well known and tedious to recount. Fortunately, most sane X servers don't allow this in their default sessions. It's fine in a LAN

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jonathan Stickel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Debian's installation process is difficult and requires intimate knowledge of how linux works. Which of the couple of dozen installers for Debian are you referring to? Please see: Installers on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian In order to have an

[vox-tech] linux on Mac iBook

2005-03-17 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Someone wants to install Linux on a Mac iBook (i.e. PowerPC arch.) at the installfest Saturday. This is new to me. Any recommendations, especially in regards to distribution? For new users, I often go with Fedora. I see that the test version of Fedora 4 is out with a version for PPC. I'll

Re: [vox-tech] linux on Mac iBook

2005-03-17 Thread Dylan Beaudette
On Thursday 17 March 2005 03:23 pm, Jonathan Stickel wrote: Someone wants to install Linux on a Mac iBook (i.e. PowerPC arch.) at the installfest Saturday. This is new to me. Any recommendations, especially in regards to distribution? For new users, I often go with Fedora. I see that the

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Jonathan Stickel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Debian's installation process is difficult and requires intimate knowledge of how linux works. Which of the couple of dozen installers for Debian are you referring to? Please see: Installers on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Debian See,

Re: [vox-tech] linux on Mac iBook

2005-03-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jonathan Stickel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Someone wants to install Linux on a Mac iBook (i.e. PowerPC arch.) at the installfest Saturday. This is new to me. Any recommendations, especially in regards to distribution? For new users, I often go with Fedora. I see that the test

Re: [vox-tech] YAST equivalent on Debian?

2005-03-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jonathan Stickel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): See, that's the beginning of the problem. What installer to use? Freedom of choice sucks, doesn't it? ;- Why isn't there a standard one that just works? Notice the pointer icons for installation options known to be excellent of their kind?

[vox-tech] resolved (kind of): stale NFS file (was: binary equivalence of two directories)

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 17 Mar 05, 6:49 PM, Mitch Patenaude [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hmm... just a guess. Is lockd running on lucifer? File locking was added in NFS4, but for backward compatibility it was run in a separate daemon. I'm guessing that most programs don't bother with file locking, but it

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Richard Harke
On Thursday 17 March 2005 15:20, Bill Kendrick wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 01:21:52PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: - Mark Kim's xhost+ advice. DON'T DO THIS. EVER. Google for the reasons, they're well known and tedious to recount. Fortunately, most sane X servers don't

Re: [vox-tech] Exporting displays

2005-03-17 Thread Mitch Patenaude
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:21:49 -0800, Richard Harke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to do xhost + in order to run firefox. I found this after googling because it wouldn't run at all. I am behind a NAT router but I would rather not do this. On the other hand, I have been using firefox more and

Re: [vox-tech] resolved (kind of): stale NFS file (was: binary equivalence of two directories)

2005-03-17 Thread Mitch Patenaude
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:13:16 -0500, Peter Jay Salzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that I have stumbled onto a bug that exists (and apparently, has always existed). NFS mounting a vfat or msdos partition has issues. A (somewhat hackish) workaround would be to use samba for filesharing