Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 29 Apr 05, 5:20 PM, Jonathan Stickel: > Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > > > Sure thing, but I have to warn you -- these aren't the most complicated > > diagrams in the world. That's partially why I got used to writing my own > > picture environment stuff (and after using it for so long, I

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: Sure thing, but I have to warn you -- these aren't the most complicated diagrams in the world. That's partially why I got used to writing my own picture environment stuff (and after using it for so long, I've become fast at it.) It was always faster to DYI than to figu

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 29 Apr 05, 4:27 PM, Karsten M. Self said: > on Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 04:52:06PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri 29 Apr 05, 1:46 PM, Ken Bloom > > > > > > I'm not sure if there was a question here, but have you tried using > > > inkscape or sodipodi? Saves

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 04:52:06PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri 29 Apr 05, 1:46 PM, Ken Bloom > > > > I'm not sure if there was a question here, but have you tried using > > inkscape or sodipodi? Saves in eps and svg formats (and some bitmap > > formats as well),

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 29 Apr 05, 1:46 PM, Ken Bloom > > I'm not sure if there was a question here, but have you tried using > inkscape or sodipodi? Saves in eps and svg formats (and some bitmap > formats as well), and I think it's a pretty good application. > > --Ken Bloom Wow. The descriptions sound absolut

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Ken Bloom
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > I need to vent frustration. > > Xfig has got to be the single most un-user friendly piece of software I've > ever seen. I experience physical pain everytime I use it. > > It's NOT a hyperbole to say that I can do most diagrams faster by coding the > picture environment b

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 01:25:08PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > It's NOT a hyperbole to say that I can do most diagrams faster by coding the > picture environment by hand than drawing the equivalent diagram with xfig. > Maybe if xfig developers stole the Gimp interface th

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 29 Apr 05, 2:52 PM, Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Also, I discovered that Dia exports in xfig format. So if you get > > something you like in Dia, including its libraries, you can export it to > > xfig. In particular, you can export a library object as xfig, then plac

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 29 Apr 05, 11:39 AM, Jonathan Stickel: > > > > > > Is it possible to use Dia's coil and turn it into a library element for > > xfig (so I can scale it and all that good stuff). That would make me > > really really happy... > > I'd forgotten about the library feature! Anyway, I found a spr

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: On Fri 29 Apr 05, 10:46 AM, Jonathan Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: My hat is off to anyone on this list who is actually handy with this monstrosity. Well, I think I'm rather handy with Xfig. It certainly does have a way of doing things that is quite different from mos

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: [snip - regarding XFig] > I don't suppose you have any idea how to generate something that looks like > a mechanical spring (a coil)? Can't find it in any libraries. [snip] Maybe you could use interpolated spline drawing? (the tool on the second row,

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Fri 29 Apr 05, 10:46 AM, Jonathan Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > >My hat is off to anyone on this list who is actually handy with this > >monstrosity. > > Well, I think I'm rather handy with Xfig. It certainly does have a way > of doing things that is quite different from most "drawi

Re: [vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: I need to vent frustration. Xfig has got to be the single most un-user friendly piece of software I've ever seen. I experience physical pain everytime I use it. It's NOT a hyperbole to say that I can do most diagrams faster by coding the picture environment by hand than dr

[vox-tech] Rant: LaTeX graphics programs

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
I need to vent frustration. Xfig has got to be the single most un-user friendly piece of software I've ever seen. I experience physical pain everytime I use it. It's NOT a hyperbole to say that I can do most diagrams faster by coding the picture environment by hand than drawing the equivalent di