Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread Samuel N. Merritt
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:56:37AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > sam, just so i have some extra lingo, what are some other "container > formats" besides AVI? Quicktime is another one. The Quicktime spec just defines where to store video and audio data within the file, but the spec doesn't defi

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread Ryan Castellucci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 October 2003 12:04 pm, Foo Lim wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Mark K. Kim wrote: > > DivX's compression is definitely better than MPEG2. And somehow MPEG4 > > and DivX is related but I'm not exactly sure how. They seem to either > > shar

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Pete I have studied this a little, but for the purpose of ripping DVDs rather than capturing input from VHS or television. I was overwhelmed by all the options. In addition to what you discovered and what Mark details, there are other "video codecs" (e.g. XviD seems to be popular), "audio co

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread Michael J Wenk
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 11:49:20AM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: > DivX's compression is definitely better than MPEG2. And somehow MPEG4 and > DivX is related but I'm not exactly sure how. They seem to either share > compression techniques or have the ability to embed one format in the > other, or i

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread Foo Lim
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Mark K. Kim wrote: > DivX's compression is definitely better than MPEG2. And somehow MPEG4 and > DivX is related but I'm not exactly sure how. They seem to either share > compression techniques or have the ability to embed one format in the > other, or it's just a different

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > sam, just so i have some extra lingo, what are some other "container > formats" besides AVI? Quicktime can also store video/audio in various codecs. Not sure if the "generic" format lets you store in a noncompressed codec but probably. > and what's

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-14 Thread p
On Mon 13 Oct 03, 11:33 PM, Samuel N. Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > As far as I know, AVI is a container format, not an encoding format. > Your software is probably just saving raw frames with a little AVI > container data. You'll need to compress them with a real video codec. > MPEG-2 isn

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Ryan Castellucci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 13 October 2003 11:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ok, i've been playing around with this for awhile, and the results are > not great. i recorded the opening theme of southpark under different > settings. the default settings of: > >s

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Samuel N. Merritt
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:51:22PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Samuel N. Merritt wrote: > > > As far as I know, AVI is a container format, not an encoding format. > > Your software is probably just saving raw frames with a little AVI > > container data. You'll need to compress

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Samuel N. Merritt wrote: > As far as I know, AVI is a container format, not an encoding format. > Your software is probably just saving raw frames with a little AVI > container data. You'll need to compress them with a real video codec. > MPEG-2 isn't the highest-compression t

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread R. Douglas Barbieri
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:43:12PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: > I think samplerate is for audio and fps is for video. I recommand keeping > fps at 15 (or higher, if your system can handle it) and samplerate low. > It should be decent. > > Because the avi created by xawtv has no compression, you'll

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
I think samplerate is for audio and fps is for video. I recommand keeping fps at 15 (or higher, if your system can handle it) and samplerate low. It should be decent. Because the avi created by xawtv has no compression, you'll need to compress it after generating the video. mplayer comes with a

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Samuel N. Merritt
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:19:08PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ok, i've been playing around with this for awhile, and the results are > not great. i recorded the opening theme of southpark under different > settings. the default settings of: > >samplerate: 44100 >frames: 12 fps >

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Ryan Castellucci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 13 October 2003 08:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hi all, > > i owned a microsoft OS for a few weeks before switching to linux. in > those few weeks, i bought a hauppauge wincast TV card. it worked > marginarlly well, but the driver had

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread p
ok, i've been playing around with this for awhile, and the results are not great. i recorded the opening theme of southpark under different settings. the default settings of: samplerate: 44100 frames: 12 fps produce a file of 72MB for about 26s of video. the video is bad, but watchable

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Michael Wenk
On Monday 13 October 2003 09:06 pm, Mark K. Kim wrote: > I think the driver needs to support saving videos. > > Assuming it does, run xawtv with -noxv option, 'cuz it can't save videos > when the video is coming through the xvideo extension. Then select > "Record Movie" from the menu, then change

Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread Mark K. Kim
I think the driver needs to support saving videos. Assuming it does, run xawtv with -noxv option, 'cuz it can't save videos when the video is coming through the xvideo extension. Then select "Record Movie" from the menu, then change "movie driver: multiple image files" to one of the valid movie f

[vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies

2003-10-13 Thread p
hi all, i owned a microsoft OS for a few weeks before switching to linux. in those few weeks, i bought a hauppauge wincast TV card. it worked marginarlly well, but the driver had "issues". anyway, i installed linux soon after and completely forgot about the card, giving up on it ever being supp