[Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
It sure would be nice to have a common JavaScript library that we could all share. People are wanting this for Aquarium, but I really don't want Aquarium to have its own JavaScript library. It's too much of a niche within a niche. Do you guys think it'd be possible to use the RoR one? I've

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Paul Boddie
On Monday 02 May 2005 20:24, Ian Bicking wrote: Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: Do you guys know of any other really solid JavaScript libraries? There's also LivePage, but I don't know that it's very well documented. Ditto Rails' prototype. I strongly prefer Javascript that is

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
I was meaning to look into Sarissa (http://sarissa.sourceforge.net/doc/) which was mentioned somewhere at some point fairly recently. It doesn't interact with specific server-side functionality, but we can whip that up quite easily, can't we? ;-) Wouldn't it be interesting if the web-sig

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread mike bayer
what kind of features are you looking for in these javascript libraries ? I see sarissa is just the XMLHttpRequest method tied to writing the guts of DOM objects, and then some more elaborate DOM inspection methods that seem less useful. it seems to me that the server-neutral javascript part of

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Ian Bicking
mike bayer wrote: what kind of features are you looking for in these javascript libraries ? I see sarissa is just the XMLHttpRequest method tied to writing the guts of DOM objects, and then some more elaborate DOM inspection methods that seem less useful. it seems to me that the

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Roberto Antonio Ferreira de Almeida
Ian Bicking wrote: Incidentally, the Rails people felt pretty strongly that innerHTML was the way to go, because DOM manipulation is hard to maintain, and innerHTML is very consistent across browsers. I had problems with innerHTML in pages served as application/xhtml+xml -- it doesn't work.

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
On 5/2/05, Shannon -jj Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sure would be nice to have a common JavaScript library that we could all share. People are wanting this for Aquarium, but I really don't want Aquarium to have its own JavaScript library. It's too much of a niche within a niche. Do

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: I was meaning to look into Sarissa (http://sarissa.sourceforge.net/doc/) which was mentioned somewhere at some point fairly recently. It doesn't interact with specific server-side functionality, but we can whip that up quite easily, can't we? ;-) Wouldn't it be

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread mike bayer
Now I am beginning to find some time for my happy workflow hacking... and things have changed a lot, it seems. I think it's about time for it to happen. It may seem a little bit simplistic of my part, but I truly believe that the programmer's nirvana can only be attained when we manage to

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Hunt
Hello everyone, A long time ago (before the advent of IronPython), I wrote a small Python module that compiled a python file to a JScript.NET file and compiled it. Seeing as JScript and _javascript_ are very similar, I bet this could be very helpful. See

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread James Y Knight
On May 2, 2005, at 8:47 PM, Peter Hunt wrote: I envision a world where we can write something like: input type=button onclick=server.onButtonClick() / And it will do a server-side RPC to the onButtonClick() method, which could do something like this: def onButtonClick(ctx):    

Re: [Web-SIG] JavaScript libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens
I actually read the Dynamic HTML book and have a lot of good ideas on how to make a good JavaScript library. I was just hoping I wouldn't have to ;) I'm hoping Kupu meets my needs. JavaScript's not a bad language. It's just very misunderstood, very abused, and a bit undeveloped. It's really