[web2py:29635] Re: web2py complaints & rebuttals

2009-08-29 Thread Mico Siahaan
For #5 what is the 'Real ORM' anyway? I have never found an ORM that did not have a way to insert sql-commands into it. On 8/30/09, dlypka wrote: > > #7 is possible. Just have to dig a little. > Plus it is not very necessary to do because now there is custom crud. > > As for #5: We should all be

[web2py:29634] Re: ipython question

2009-08-29 Thread Mico Siahaan
Hi, have you tried to go to the folder where you unzipped web2py source and then run 'ipython web2py.py' again? Regards, Mico On 8/30/09, jayvandal wrote: > > I have downloaded ipython onto Windows Vista. I caan run ipython, but > I don't have a file web2py.py. I have two versions of web2py, bu

[web2py:29633] ipython question

2009-08-29 Thread jayvandal
I have downloaded ipython onto Windows Vista. I caan run ipython, but I don't have a file web2py.py. I have two versions of web2py, but I can't find a web2py.py. Where do I find the file for Windows I have python 31, python26 and python25. I found problems and had to go back 25 to run some python

[web2py:29632] Re: web2py complaints & rebuttals

2009-08-29 Thread dlypka
#7 is possible. Just have to dig a little. Plus it is not very necessary to do because now there is custom crud. As for #5: We should all be glad that web2py is not trying to be a 'real ORM'. The 'real ORM' concept has been proven to be a failure and was obviously a silly idea from the very begin

[web2py:29631] Re: web2py complaints & rebuttals

2009-08-29 Thread Julio
For #1, I'd suggest you visit an entry I have in my (web2py-built) blog: http://www.julioflores.com/zblog/blog/view/20 - web2py can very well be "debugged" real time, with variable scoping, stack data, breakpoints, etc, etc, literally as you would run a webapp in .Net (you just need to get the rig

[web2py:29630] web2py complaints & rebuttals

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Hunter
A colleague has lodged the following complaints about web2py, and I'd like to run my responses by this group in order to correct/strengthen those responses. Complaint #1: No real-time debugging (i.e. proper step-debugging in a real IDE) Response #1: web2py, being a framework, does not include a f

[web2py:29629] Web2py and Webfaction

2009-08-29 Thread Heronim
I am installing the Web2py in WebFaction, typing the command: python web2py.py -p12345 Is the message: Traceback (most recent call last): File "web2py.py", line 20, in? gluon.widget.start (cron = True) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'start' What to do? --~--~-

[web2py:29628] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread Julio
I am up for it :) I do believe pyforum is ready for prime time (though for obvious reasons I am a bit biased), Being in this wonderful group I kinda know who is who in a way, so I'd be happy to give admin to anyone here that requires it, just so you get a "feel" of the administrative area of pyFo

[web2py:29627] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread Pynthon Pynthon
True, it is more professional. Only problem is the hosting... 2009/8/29 mr.freeze > > Also, I think a web framework that eats it's own dog food is more > convincing. > > On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, "mr.freeze" wrote: > > Whoops! I was looking at the topic count but I still think google > > groups suck.

[web2py:29626] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread mr.freeze
Also, I think a web framework that eats it's own dog food is more convincing. On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, "mr.freeze" wrote: > Whoops! I was looking at the topic count but I still think google > groups suck.  It seems like the search doesn't go back very far and > nothing is categorized so it's not a go

[web2py:29625] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread mr.freeze
Whoops! I was looking at the topic count but I still think google groups suck. It seems like the search doesn't go back very far and nothing is categorized so it's not a good reference. On Aug 29, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Lundell wrote: > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:33 AM, mr.freeze wrote: > > > Google is

[web2py:29624] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread Pynthon Pynthon
I'm also for it! It also looks a lot more professional... 2009/8/29 Jonathan Lundell > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:33 AM, mr.freeze wrote: > > > Google is eating our messages. It shows only 4625 messages. Massimo > > does that many in a week :) web2py should use pyforum instead and > > take back

[web2py:29623] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:33 AM, mr.freeze wrote: > Google is eating our messages. It shows only 4625 messages. Massimo > does that many in a week :) web2py should use pyforum instead and > take back control! Are you sure? When I looked just now ,

[web2py:29622] Re: pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread JorgeR
I am for it! Good idea. In fact,I was about to propose the same. On Aug 29, 11:33 am, "mr.freeze" wrote: > Google is eating our messages.  It shows only 4625 messages.  Massimo > does that many in a week :)  web2py should use pyforum instead and > take back control! --~--~-~--~~

[web2py:29621] Re: web2py course

2009-08-29 Thread Álvaro Justen [Turicas]
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:16, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > I may be teaching this course again if enough interest: > > http://www.cdm.depaul.edu/ipd/Programs/Pages/WebDevelopmentwithPython.aspx > > The application deadline is September 11. > > Massimo > > Very cool! It's a pidy I can't do this c

[web2py:29620] pyforum instead of google groups?

2009-08-29 Thread mr.freeze
Google is eating our messages. It shows only 4625 messages. Massimo does that many in a week :) web2py should use pyforum instead and take back control! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users

[web2py:29619] Re: How to access the checked property?

2009-08-29 Thread mdipierro
I did not get your point then. Let me look into this more. I am travelling this week end but I will look at this asap. Massimo On Aug 29, 9:42 am, "mr.freeze" wrote: > My point is that the web2py_ajax.html ajax function behaves > differently than a normal submit, which is confusing. > > On Aug

[web2py:29618] Re: How to access the checked property?

2009-08-29 Thread mr.freeze
My point is that the web2py_ajax.html ajax function behaves differently than a normal submit, which is confusing. On Aug 29, 3:23 am, mdipierro wrote: > I disagree: > > if(jQuery(this).is(':checked') > > On Aug 28, 6:37 pm, "mr.freeze" wrote: > > > Seems like a lot of work to get the status of

[web2py:29617] DALnr Proof of Concept is available for download

2009-08-29 Thread dlypka
I have created a web2py DALnr Proof of Concept application. It may be downloaded from http://mygaedrive.appspot.com/?uploadmbID=1251549230&srv=www&filename=DALnrPOC001_v0008.zip This demonstrates hybrid sqlrows which have both sql properties and non-relational native GAE datastore propertie

[web2py:29524] Re: Problem with using gluon code in a module

2009-08-29 Thread DenesL
On Aug 27, 12:27 pm, klarson wrote: > Please ignore the parentheses as I cut/paste a segment of the code > from the entire form. It has several more TR elements but they all > work once I remove the INPUT element. The entire code works in the > controller so there shouldn't be a parentheses pr

[web2py:29522] Re: path issue

2009-08-29 Thread ctalley
Yes, right again. Quoting around the path placeholder does allow specifying a "long" format path including with spaces. Thanks again. On Aug 27, 12:26 pm, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, ctalley wrote: > > > Thanks guys.  Yarko, you are nothing if not prolific - all I

[web2py:29616] Re: web2py course

2009-08-29 Thread mdipierro
yes this is entirely online. I record the lectures (2.5hrs/week) and you watch them online. They will be intermediate level since they assume no knowledge of python, web2py, ajax or google app engine. They do assume knowledge of html, css, sql. Anyway the exact content of the course is negotiable

[web2py:29615] Re: How to access the checked property?

2009-08-29 Thread mdipierro
I disagree: if(jQuery(this).is(':checked') On Aug 28, 6:37 pm, "mr.freeze" wrote: > Seems like a lot of work to get the status of a checkbox but I guess > changing the web2py_ajax.html ajax function to use jQuery.serialize > wouldn't be truly backwards compatible since people have already > imp

[web2py:29614] Re: ProgrammingError: LOB variable no longer valid after subsequent fetch

2009-08-29 Thread mdipierro
Which python version? I vaguely remember this had been addressed and the problem has gone away. Massimo On Aug 28, 2:40 pm, DJ wrote: > Hi, > > I get this error while retrieving CLOB data types from Oracle. This is > also seen with the Web2Py admin interface when it tries to display all > data