Re: [web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-30 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Here are the results from two sources, A) The survey, and B) Listing of community members speaking for one or the other. A) Survey - 12 Responses ( No way to determine if anybody spammed responses ) There are no significant differences in usage scales, the hypothesis is that it only matters for

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-25 Thread mdipierro
Hi Thadeus. You have two objections. One is procedural and one is more substantial. Procedurally, I can add any feature I consider appropriate. It has happened before. It will happen again. In practice, it is my interest to keep users happy and in particular other contributors, so if I feel

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-24 Thread Iceberg
On Mar23, 2:29pm, weheh richard_gor...@verizon.net wrote: Thadeus, it's 6 of one, half-dozen of the other to me. I use both. So in theory, it doesn't really matter which is the default. Therefore, I prefer that the default remain whatever it currently is so that I don't have to change any of

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-24 Thread mdipierro
It is not that simple. zero='' was introduced about one year ago because of popular demand at the time and very few people spoke against it. If you change it now you revert to the behavior you had one year ago but most recent applications will change behavior. This consultation should have a

Re: [web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-24 Thread Thadeus Burgess
I am not sure of the exact time frame that this was introduced (zero='', breaking backwards-compatibility) by it was only a matter of a couple of months ago, not a year. The exact date was 2010-01-03 of this change, at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/web2py/devel/revision/1497 Should I

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-23 Thread weheh
Thadeus, it's 6 of one, half-dozen of the other to me. I use both. So in theory, it doesn't really matter which is the default. Therefore, I prefer that the default remain whatever it currently is so that I don't have to change any of my code. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-23 Thread Thadeus Burgess
weheh, Massimo, The issue is the same for me, I have several web2py applications, each commanding over 20 forms which make use of IS_IN_SET. I am dealing with a sizable number of forms that I need to update just to fix this. The fact is that web2py changed the output of how drop boxes are

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-23 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
Thadeus - I initially commiserated with you: backward compatipility is backward compatibility --- but I alwasy thought Massimo held on to that phrase too strongly, too tightly. It's important for the big things, but it _always_ gets in the way of meaningful, useful change... I think perhaps

Re: [web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-23 Thread Thadeus Burgess
It is not so trivial to search and replace. For one, you cannot place keyword arguments before non-keyword args. So it is not a simple matter of find/replace IS_IN_SET(... with IS_IN_SET(zero=None..., there will have to be parsing of the syntax to determine where to place zero=. I am perfectly

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-23 Thread Yarko Tymciurak
On Mar 23, 4:22 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote: It is not so trivial to search and replace. For one, you cannot place keyword arguments before non-keyword args. So it is not a simple matter of find/replace IS_IN_SET(... with IS_IN_SET(zero=None..., there will have to be

[web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-23 Thread mdipierro
Fixed text cannot be set by default, because default is set outside the app and therefore would not be internationalized. On Mar 23, 7:24 pm, Alex Fanjul alex.fan...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, maybe I come late, but the best default option for me is: Please choose an option at the first place,

Re: [web2py] Re: Survey: Functionality of the Drop Boxes widget

2010-03-22 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: Just an update: The current functionality is set at zero= for web2py. This survey will only serve as a consulting referendum, it does not mean that the end result will be the same. Current Number of responses: 5 (we really need more!