Re: [webkit-dev] Adding archive.org-based page loading time performance tests

2012-04-29 Thread Darin Fisher
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Nat Duca wrote: > >> I'm concerned at how well this would work graphics performance tests. >> >> Consider: >> http://web.archive.org/web/20110111083848/http://techcrunch.com/ >> >> http://web.archive.org/web/

Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Darin Fisher
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >>>

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > I think the relevant question is how much (if any) content uses > webkitPostMessage (without unprefixed postMessage fallback). The fact that > postMessage incorporates the new functionality doesn't answer that question. > I'm willing

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > >> >> There is very little cost on the WebKit project to maintain >> webkitPostMessage in addition to postMessage. Instead, suppo

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > > > There is very little cost on the WebKit project to maintain > webkitPostMessage in addition to postMessage. Instead, supporting > webkitPostMessage imposes a cost on the web platfo

Re: [webkit-dev] LayoutTestHelper

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > Hi folks, > > new-run-webkit-tests seems to mess with the system color profile on Mac, even > when not running pixel tests. Historically, I believe we did this only when > running pixel tests. I noticed that this is because it launche

[webkit-dev] LayoutTestHelper

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
Hi folks, new-run-webkit-tests seems to mess with the system color profile on Mac, even when not running pixel tests. Historically, I believe we did this only when running pixel tests. I noticed that this is because it launches the LayoutTestHelper tool unconditionally, and in addition to chan

Re: [webkit-dev] Adding archive.org-based page loading time performance tests

2012-04-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Nat Duca wrote: > I'm concerned at how well this would work graphics performance tests. > > Consider: > http://web.archive.org/web/20110111083848/http://techcrunch.com/ > > http://web.archive.org/web/20110222032916/http://www.nytimes.com/ > > > http://web.archive.

Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Brendan Eich
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: I'm actually curious as to how the session participants reached this consensus (probably on a separate thread). It seems like the bar shouldn't too high for removing prefixed APIs when they are unprefixed equivalents b

Re: [webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > I'm actually curious as to how the session participants reached this > consensus (probably on a separate thread). It seems like the bar shouldn't > too high for removing prefixed APIs when they are unprefixed equivalents > because I'm cert

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > > There is very little cost on the WebKit project to maintain webkitPostMessage > in addition to postMessage. Instead, supporting webkitPostMessage imposes a > cost on the web platform at large by reducing interoperability between > browsers.

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> >> I read , b

[webkit-dev] (no subject)

2012-04-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> >> I read , b

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: BTW, the p

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

2012-04-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: >> >> BTW, the page at

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: >>> BTW, the page at seems >>> to be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remo

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> I read , but I'm >> still unsure how to proceed with removing webkitPostMessage

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

2012-04-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: > > BTW, the page at seems > to be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remove entirely". Is that what is > meant? If so, I think it wou

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> I read , but I'm >> still unsure how to proceed with removing webkitPostMessage and >> aligning postMessage with the spec.  No one respo

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > > I read , but I'm > still unsure how to proceed with removing webkitPostMessage and > aligning postMessage with the spec. No one resp

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: > >> BTW, the page at seems to >> be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remove entirely". Is that what is >> meant? If so, I think it would be helpful to change the wording to "removing >> feat

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > I read , but I'm > still unsure how to proceed with removing webkitPostMessage and > aligning postMessage with the spec. No one responded to my earlier > message, so I'm inclined to just post a p

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM, David Levin wrote: > wrt #1, I believe that postMessage implements what is in the spec and > webkitPostMessage additional has support for ArrayBuffers which wasn't in > the postMessage spec yet but was going to be added. If the behaviors from > webkitPostMessage w

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread David Levin
wrt #1, I believe that postMessage implements what is in the spec and webkitPostMessage additional has support for ArrayBuffers which wasn't in the postMessage spec yet but was going to be added. If the behaviors from webkitPostMessage were added to postMessage, then it coudl be removed. wrt #2, I

Re: [webkit-dev] webkitPostMessage

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
I read , but I'm still unsure how to proceed with removing webkitPostMessage and aligning postMessage with the spec. No one responded to my earlier message, so I'm inclined to just post a patch. Many thanks, Adam On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM,

Re: [webkit-dev] github mirror

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
Tor, I think we should retire the author rewriting script on GitHub. Jame's is right that there's a lot of value in having git.webkit.org and GitHub using the same hashes. For example, both Eric and Gavin requested that when they started using GitHub. We would have some trouble adopting the aut

Re: [webkit-dev] Using GitHub to Contribute to WebKit (Experimental)

2012-04-29 Thread Adam Barth
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Adam Roben wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Adam Barth wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> > Can we do some Bugzilla integration as Jarred suggested? >> >> If you're excited about using GitHub, you should feel free to do