Re: Generics and WO

2006-08-21 Thread Ian Joyner
On 22/08/2006, at 2:23 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: Hi there, On 15/08/2006, at 2:06 PM, Ian Joyner wrote: Reading up on this a bit more, I note that generics are implemented, not by changing the JVM, but by 'type erasure'. The upside of this is that programs using genericity are able to run

Re: WO Community Web site

2006-08-21 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, its sad that so many of us had to leave early on Friday so that we couldn't be in that picture. Just an idea related to that: The member info pages Pascal proposed could also work for individuals. Instead of a company logo, people could add their mug shot..er portrait picture if they

Setup a list [Was: Let's do it!]

2006-08-21 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I just setup an ezmlm-based list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the server that we've used for WOLips/WOProject and Cayenne for the last 5 years. The list subscription is self-administered via email. See the wiki for subscription addresses: http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/Home

Re: WO Community Web site

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Little
its sad that so many of us had to leave early on Friday so that we couldn't be in that picture. On 8/21/06, Pascal Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's faster to do a prototype in iWeb than in Dreamweaver :-) http://web.mac.com/pascal_robert/iWeb/WOFoundation/Welcome.html __

interesting: sope has made the java plunge with jope

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Little
http://freshmeat.net/projects/jope/?branch_id=65971&release_id=234508 They need to work on the names. Yes, that picture is of eclipse as the IDE for developing this WO-alike solution. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. We

Re: XCode 2.3 --> XCode 2.4 [and WebObjects 5.3.2]

2006-08-21 Thread Ashley Aitken
On 22/08/2006, at 10:47 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: But the fact that there is a new version of webobjects in xCode 3... means... what that apple is going to continue to support and develop Webobjects for the foresee-able future? Unless they are planning on canceling iTunes... Yes, but theoret

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread womail
On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:27 PM, M. Blanc wrote: May I sugest Pier instead? Pier is written in Smalltalk —the inspiration behind Objective-C— and based on Seaside, an application server originally inspired in WebObjects, so we are cousins. It is also simple enough to install and, even better, t

Re: Generics and WO

2006-08-21 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi there, On 15/08/2006, at 2:06 PM, Ian Joyner wrote: Reading up on this a bit more, I note that generics are implemented, not by changing the JVM, but by 'type erasure'. The upside of this is that programs using genericity are able to run on older JVMs and you still get compiler checks a

Re: whywebobjects.org - WWDC followup [and URLs], Lets Start doing it

2006-08-21 Thread Mark Morris
Hello all, Sorry I've been out of the loop for a couple of days. Been swamped with work! There seems to be so many great resources and volunteers to help, it looks like it would make the most sense for me to point whywebobjects. [org|net|info] at the server Wolfram has generously offered,

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread M. Blanc
On 22 Aug 2006, at 05:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: I tried Magnolia a year and half ago, I really like it. We can get it to run in 15 minutes. Anyone want to host it ? It's a good alternative until we use a WO CMS. I can provide hostin

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread womail
On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: I tried Magnolia a year and half ago, I really like it. We can get it to run in 15 minutes. Anyone want to host it ? It's a good alternative until we use a WO CMS. I can provide hosting space if Pascal can get it set up (I've never inst

Re: XCode 2.3 --> XCode 2.4 [and WebObjects 5.3.2]

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 21, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Mac Campbell wrote: Can I ask for a little clarification here? You can ask... This depreciation notice is NOT the confidential announcement that apple made at WWDC? No, this seems to be public. But the fact that there is a new version of webobjects in xCod

Re: XCode 2.3 --> XCode 2.4 [and WebObjects 5.3.2]

2006-08-21 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 06-08-21 à 21:03, Mac Campbell a écrit : Can I ask for a little clarification here? This depreciation notice is NOT the confidential announcement that apple made at WWDC? Related, but not the confidental one. ___ Do not post admin requests

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread Pascal Robert
- "Generic" Java CMS Lenya http://lenya.apache.org/ Magnolia http://www.magnolia.info/en/magnolia.html I tried Magnolia a year and half ago, I really like it. We can get it to run in 15 minutes. Anyone want to host it ? It's a good alternative until we use a WO CMS. __

Re: specify the size of a target blank window in the wod file

2006-08-21 Thread Gilles MATHURIN
What i meant is that : i simply write a javascript in the destination WOComponent (in the Html-Wod file to be more accurate) which set a new size for the window on load : just a "window.resizeTo(w,h)" declaration. That's all. Maybe i wasn't clear at the beginning… sorry in this case. Regar

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread Marc Oesch
Yes, of course. I didn't mean that we should build Wikis etc to use for the WebObjects Foundation. I'm relieved :) I meantmindshare is created by providing working solutions. Apache became a powerhouse because they built/supported a fully functional Showing how WOnderful WO is with working ap

WO Community Web site

2006-08-21 Thread Pascal Robert
It's faster to do a prototype in iWeb than in Dreamweaver :-) http://web.mac.com/pascal_robert/iWeb/WOFoundation/Welcome.html ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@list

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread Arturo Pérez
On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Marc Oesch wrote: I'm all for for more WO source code and building blocks for generic funtionality as Arturo suggested, but this may take some months. We could always gradually switch over as more and more tools become available written in WebObjects. Yes, of c

Re: XCode 2.3 --> XCode 2.4 [and WebObjects 5.3.2]

2006-08-21 Thread Mac Campbell
Can I ask for a little clarification here? This depreciation notice is NOT the confidential announcement that apple made at WWDC? But the fact that there is a new version of webobjects in xCode 3... means... what that apple is going to continue to support and develop Webobjects for the fores

Re: Using distinct in to-many relationship?

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote: Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that pass that parameter: public EOFetchSpecification(String entityNa

Re: Using distinct in to-many relationship?

2006-08-21 Thread Marcos Trejo Munguia
On Aug 21, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote: Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that pass that parameter: public EOFetchSpecification(String entityName, EOQualifier qualifier,

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread Marc Oesch
Just some thoughts after going through the archives of the past months and weeks for the new Wiki. My opinion would be to get things started and online instead of waiting for the perfect solution written in WebObjects. The Wiki is in place for editing projects and colleting ideas, thanks to Andr

Re: Using distinct in to-many relationship?

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 21, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote: Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that pass that parameter: public EOFetchSpecification(String entityName, EOQualifier qualifier, NSArray sortOrderings,

Re: Using distinct in to-many relationship?

2006-08-21 Thread Marcos Trejo Munguia
Actually I,m using the EOFetchSpecification constructor that pass that parameter: public EOFetchSpecification(String entityName, EOQualifier qualifier, NSArray sortOrderings, boolean usesDistinct,

Re: Let's do it!

2006-08-21 Thread Ricardo Strausz
On Aug 21, 2006, at 5:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:2. We should have an expert in mail (for the list... may be simply   to get "majordomo" working) and to set up a web-log, the wiki, and   the ftp server to publish code... I am sure that guru Chuck can   help... do you? I am NOT a server admin G

Re: New WO Wiki started ! [Generic FAQ and Apple info pages added]

2006-08-21 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, I added a new page for "projects currently underway" instead of adding it to the "future plans and ideas" page. Great, thanks. We also need to put some explanatory text on the home page, which currently says "This is the home page for the WOCommunity space. I added some basic text j

Re: Lets Start doing it

2006-08-21 Thread Yann Bizeul
I can host backup mail server (MX backup) and secondary DNSI have a dedicated linux server for that, with not much bandwidth (2MB), but availability OKI guess I could host a private subversion/trac server. everything is already setup for my own products, and I guess bandwidth will be fine for a res

How to upgrade Mac OS X Server 10.4.7 from WO 5.3.1 to WO 5.3.2?

2006-08-21 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Hi List,We have recently upgraded our servers to 10.4.7; but still only have WebObjects Version 5.3.1.        BuildVersion        4        CFBundleShortVersionString        5.3.1        ProjectName        JavaWebObjects        SourceVersion        953 How do we upgrade our deployment servers to

Re: XCode 2.3 --> XCode 2.4 [and WebObjects 5.3.2]

2006-08-21 Thread Marc Oesch
Hello, How are those release notes coming? Xcode 2.4: http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/DeveloperTools/Xcode/Xcode.html WebObjects 5.3.2: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304041 An important part at the end. This was mentioned before, just to highlight it again... -

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 21, 2006, at 12:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 21, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: At present, the source is open but the development is not. We (GVC) are acting as gatekeepers to maintain the integrity of the design and source. A wise move. Although fully open sour

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread James Cicenia
Well that maybe so. So maybe a concerted Wonder effort? An open source Wonder CMS? Something where we can all donate some business object type extension. E-Zines CSS AJAX Calendar Subscriptions E-Commerce CMS Gallery RSS etc. And finally documentation and a simple installation wizard. And, al

Re: specify the size of a target blank window in the wod file

2006-08-21 Thread Gilles MATHURIN
Never mind, i did it with javascript as i couldn't find the mail in the list… and it's perfect. Don't need to do everything with WO after all ;-) Thanks anyway. Regards. GM Le 21 août 06 à 14:59, Chuck Hill a écrit : I have only ever seen this done with JavaScript. Chuck On Aug 19, 2006,

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread womail
On Aug 21, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: At present, the source is open but the development is not. We (GVC) are acting as gatekeepers to maintain the integrity of the design and source. A wise move. Although fully open source is a great goal, the reality is that it's very risky

Re: XCode 2.3 --> XCode 2.4

2006-08-21 Thread Christian Pekeler
On Aug 8, 2006, at 23:46, Cliff Tuel wrote: No, it's not remedial, Xcode 2.4 includes WebObjects 5.3.2. I'm not sure where the Release Notes are hiding... things are a little crazy this week with WWDC, but I'm told they're supposed to be posted soon. How are those release notes coming? T

Re: Lets Start doing it

2006-08-21 Thread Karl
I've offered to setup a mailing list. We have a powerful listserve hosted on Xserve's at a high-bandwidth hosting centre. Just let me know what everyone needs and I can get it setup. We would need to choose a domain (or use something temporary such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] if we need it yesterd

Re: Lets Start doing it

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 19, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Ricardo Strausz wrote: Hola! With no dude, this is the first "kicking off" words I hear... let do it! 1. I am about to receive money to get a Mac Pro (from math.unam.mx) which we can use as a mirror to Wolfram's Xserve (this depends on government, so I canno

Re: WebObjects Foundation

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 19, 2006, at 12:27 PM, James Cicenia wrote: I concur +5 Every time I dip into the php waters I am amazed at all the available source/solutions Ecosystems seem to start around Content Management Systems. Maybe this is GVC?! GVC.SiteMaker is what I assume you mean. Keep in

Re: specify the size of a target blank window in the wod file

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
I have only ever seen this done with JavaScript. Chuck On Aug 19, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Gilles MATHURIN wrote: Hello I am not sure but i think i remember having seen a post where someone explain how to specify the window size of a blank target hyperlink simply in the wod file of th WOCompon

Re: Using distinct in to-many relationship?

2006-08-21 Thread Zak Burke
Marcos Trejo Munguia wrote on 8/21/06 2:17 PM: > Recently I found that the SQL generated by a fetch using > setPrefetchingRelationshipKeyPaths with a to-many relationship generates > the query without distinct while for to-one relationships uses distinct. Call setUsesDistinct(true) on your fetch-s

Using distinct in to-many relationship?

2006-08-21 Thread Marcos Trejo Munguia
Hi List: Recently I found that the SQL generated by a fetch using setPrefetchingRelationshipKeyPaths with a to-many relationship generates the query without distinct while for to-one relationships uses distinct. Example: Suppose you have entity A, B, C with the next relationships: A <-> B A <->> C

Re: help with mysql

2006-08-21 Thread Gennady Kushnir
You should insert into the beginning of your dump file the statement pointing its encoding:SET NAMES utf8; Regards,Gennady Kushnir On 19.08.2006, at 16:05, Gino Pacitti wrote:Hi allI have a database with 5 different languages used for products in different tables.I did a mysql dump and loaded that

Re: Reusable translated button

2006-08-21 Thread Timo Hoepfner
Am 21.08.2006 um 17:19 schrieb Fabrice Pipart:I am trying to make a reusable component to have buttons translated.The idea is to just provide a key to the button that will take care to find the translation in the .stringsThis looks like Chuck's "LocaleString" but for buttons.You could use Project W

Re: Reusable translated button

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Fabrice Pipart wrote: Hi list ! I am trying to make a reusable component to have buttons translated. The idea is to just provide a key to the button that will take care to find the translation in the .strings This looks like Chuck's "LocaleString" but for button

Re: Proper place for functions in KVC paths?

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Hill
I am surprised that these all work. The NSArray documentation implies :-) the that intended use is @. Chuck On Aug 21, 2006, at 7:59 AM, John Huss wrote: It seems that key-value coding allows serveral different ways of using functions (like @sum, @avg, etc) in key paths that all seem to w

Re: New WO Wiki started ! [Re: Lets Start doing it]

2006-08-21 Thread womail
This is great, Marc, thanks! I added a new page for "projects currently underway" instead of adding it to the "future plans and ideas" page. I didn't want there to be any confusion about which was which, and the future plans page is already quite long. We also need to put some explanator

Re: WWDC Videos?

2006-08-21 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! Why? We can only access the videos if we had been there anyway! :) I really want those videos, because there were some sessions important for me that I did not attend because of schedule collisions. Yours Miguel Arroz On 2006/08/18, at 18:48, Cliff Tuel wrote: Last year, Apple De

Reusable translated button

2006-08-21 Thread Fabrice Pipart
Hi list !I am trying to make a reusable component to have buttons translated.The idea is to just provide a key to the button that will take care to find the translation in the .stringsThis looks like Chuck's "LocaleString" but for buttons.Here is what I did :TranslatedButton HTML :Proper place for functions in KVC paths?
It seems that key-value coding allows serveral different ways of using functions (like @sum, @avg, etc) in key paths that all seem to work. Like, @sum.array.key.path [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a proper way to write these? John ___ Do

New WO Wiki started ! [Re: Lets Start doing it] - 2

http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/WO+Resources+and+Ideas Update: Added a new page to collect feedback for Apple since I saw some feedback when going through the posts from the past weeks. ( Apple stated on various occasions there no WO marketing resources and I personally don'

Re: WebObjects Foundation

Hello guys, My company (Active WO Supporter) is willing to offer a room (free) in it's datacenter if a server need a home (datacenter in switzerland). Physical administration would also be provided. We don't have any server to provide at the moment. So, if anything builds up and need a host

New WO Wiki started ! [Re: Lets Start doing it]

Hello, Ok, following Pascal's post, I tried to get this effort started with 3 simple pages here http://www.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/WO+Resources+and+Ideas I simply browsed the lists and added the stuff from my bookmark lists as discussed before: 1. Links to existing WO content