Re: More efficient web service choice

2008-06-17 Thread David den Boer
We use SOAP webservices on many of our applications, some of which receive several hundred thousand transactions daily without any issues. I find the ease of using SOAP over other options so much better, especially when using WO (which is also quite a bit faster than using JBOSS or Tomcat f

Re: Ahem. Do Not Run This Script

2008-06-17 Thread Anjo Krank
Oh. You mean like this one: https://wonder.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/wonder/trunk/Wonder/Utilities/JarUtilities/jartoframework.pl Cheers, Anjo Am 17.06.2008 um 22:54 schrieb Pierce T. Wetter III: Whatever you do, do not install jad: http://www.kpdus.com/jad.html Do not download nightly sna

Re: Error creating WOLips view

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
Ah. That is probably it; I'm way behind on list messages so I hadn't seen that yet. Am I better off going back to stable, or upgrading my Eclipse to version 4? Well, Mike *just* announced the switch. So personally I'll probably stick with Eclipse 3.3.2 for a little bit yet (let the dust

Re: Error creating WOLips view

2008-06-17 Thread David LeBer
On 17-Jun-08, at 10:08 PM, Janine Sisk wrote: Ah. That is probably it; I'm way behind on list messages so I hadn't seen that yet. Am I better off going back to stable, or upgrading my Eclipse to version 4? Well, Mike *just* announced the switch. So personally I'll probably stick with

Re: Error creating WOLips view

2008-06-17 Thread Janine Sisk
Ah. That is probably it; I'm way behind on list messages so I hadn't seen that yet. Am I better off going back to stable, or upgrading my Eclipse to version 4? thanks, janine On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:05 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 17-Jun-08, at 10:02 PM, Janine Sisk wrote: I'm setting up

Re: Error creating WOLips view

2008-06-17 Thread David LeBer
On 17-Jun-08, at 10:02 PM, Janine Sisk wrote: I'm setting up my laptop to do WO development and have run into a snag. I installed Eclipse 3.3.2, and WOLips from the nightly build (). Then I tried to open the WOLips perspective and got "Error crating the view. Reason: org/eclipse/ltk/in

Error creating WOLips view

2008-06-17 Thread Janine Sisk
I'm setting up my laptop to do WO development and have run into a snag. I installed Eclipse 3.3.2, and WOLips from the nightly build (). Then I tried to open the WOLips perspective and got "Error crating the view. Reason: org/eclipse/ltk/internal/core/refactoring/resource/ RenameResourcePr

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
Ganymede simultaneous release In order to include the Subversive project into Ganymede simultaneous release process we should perform following tasks: • Check the plug-in compatibility with the Ganymede builds [done] • Check Ganymede simultaneous release requirements [done]

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III
On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Subversive will be part of the official distribution. (Only thing I knew about, because I was researching the Subclipse vs. Subversive question yesterday). It's still not installed by default, though (at least in the "classic build"). Maybe

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
Subversive will be part of the official distribution. (Only thing I knew about, because I was researching the Subclipse vs. Subversive question yesterday). It's still not installed by default, though (at least in the "classic build"). Maybe one of the other 27 configurations includes it ...

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
I kid, I kid ... http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.4M7-200805020100/eclipse-news-M7.html (thanks to Q for tracking down the archived URL for that page) On Jun 17, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anything new and cool and useful in 3.4? On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Mi

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III
On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anything new and cool and useful in 3.4? Subversive will be part of the official distribution. (Only thing I knew about, because I was researching the Subclipse vs. Subversive question yesterday). Pierce _

Re: Ahem. Do Not Run This Script

2008-06-17 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III
On Jun 17, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote: This email is archive worthy...just so I never do that! :) don't do this either: for dir in Java* ; do opendiff $dir/5.4.2-SNAPSHOT $dir/5.5-SNAPSHOT; done And doing this is really, really boring: for dir in Java* ; do opendiff $dir/5.5-S

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
If you're a fan of decimal numbers with 4's in them, then I have some great news for you ... On Jun 17, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anything new and cool and useful in 3.4? On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: In case you aren't on the wolips mailing list, the WOLips nig

Re: WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
Anything new and cool and useful in 3.4? On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: In case you aren't on the wolips mailing list, the WOLips nightly build has moved over to be the WOLips stable build, and WOLips nightly now requires the Eclipse 3.4 prerelease (which should be final

WOLips

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
In case you aren't on the wolips mailing list, the WOLips nightly build has moved over to be the WOLips stable build, and WOLips nightly now requires the Eclipse 3.4 prerelease (which should be final soon). Incidentally, if you use the nightly build, you should really be on the woproject-d

Re: More efficient web service choice

2008-06-17 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 18/06/2008, at 3:05 AM, John Huss wrote: I'm going to be implementing a web service with WO and was wondering if there was a way to do this using something other than the extremely verbose SOAP messages. It is verbose, but can use compression... with regards, -- Lachlan Deck __

Re: What is the best way to handle invalid values from a WOTextField?

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; I also depend on this functionality to enforce data entry. Would be painful for it to be removed. Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Hi, in the past (until WO 5.4) I often have used a WOTextField with a forma

Re: Report Mill Question

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Any reason your not using your standard EOs and just outputting them to XML, they work with ReportMill? If you are using a WODisplayGroup it is easy: RMWebObjects.writeObject(theDisplayGroup.allObjects(), "/agents.xml"); Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 4:30 PM, James Cicenia wrote: I am having virt

Re: build.xml

2008-06-17 Thread David Avendasora
Also, if you are trying out Java Client, then you also have to add a target to build the client-side jar and put it in the WebServerResources/Java directory using the instructions on the wiki: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Java+Client-Building It would be nice to add both

Re: Ahem. Do Not Run This Script

2008-06-17 Thread Lon Varscsak
This email is archive worthy...just so I never do that! :) Lon On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Pierce T. Wetter III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever you do, do not install jad: http://www.kpdus.com/jad.html > > Do not download nightly snapshots of WebObjects. > > Do not extract them, then c

Ahem. Do Not Run This Script

2008-06-17 Thread Pierce T. Wetter III
Whatever you do, do not install jad: http://www.kpdus.com/jad.html Do not download nightly snapshots of WebObjects. Do not extract them, then cd com/webobjects. Do not run the following script. (see below) Do not do opendiff JavaWebObjects/5.4.2-SNAPSHOT JavaWebObjects/5.5-SNAPSHOT Do not do

Re: What is the best way to handle invalid values from a WOTextField?

2008-06-17 Thread Ralf Schuchardt
Am 17.06.2008 um 20:25 schrieb Chuck Hill: On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Am 17.06.2008 um 19:32 schrieb Chuck Hill: On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Hi, in the past (until WO 5.4) I often have used a WOTextField with a formatter to prevent

Re: More efficient web service choice

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew Lindesay
The "S" Stands for Simple Oh I must say I really did enjoy reading a couple of years ago! cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.lindesay.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-d

Re: [Wonder-disc] SproutCore and WO?

2008-06-17 Thread David Holt
I've been on the Sproutcore mailing list for months (since .Mac galleries came out) and in the past couple of days, the traffic to the list has really spiked with several people asking about backend example code. This might be a great opportunity to promote WO if someone can get a demo scre

Re: More efficient web service choice

2008-06-17 Thread Robert Walker
I would also recommend taking a look at Representational State Transfer (REST). I have not made any attempt myself to implement REST in WebObjects, but it has become part of my daily routine when working in Ruby on Rails. The following, rather comical, look at SOAP vs REST is what actually

Re: Bug: change not registering in Editing Context

2008-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
I don't have time to test this now. Your best bet is to post this and attach the example at http://bugreport.apple.com. There are two important things to know: 1. Apple engineering looks at most (all?) bug reports within 48 hours. Really, they do. 2. If you don't report this to Apple,

Re: More efficient web service choice

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello John; You may be interested in my JSON-RPC infrastructure in LEWOStuff; http://homepage.mac.com/andrewlindesay/le/page_lestuff.html See subsection 0.5.23 "JSON-RPC" of the overview PDF and then read around other areas of the PDF where you can find "JSON-RPC". When the WOWODC

Re: WOWODC Videos [ or Slides...]

2008-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I think I should write a FAQ about that... Look like the recording is ok for the 5 minutes that I looked at, but I will look at it in full lenght this week-end. We hope to make it available b

Re: WOWODC Videos [ or Slides...]

2008-06-17 Thread Ray Kiddy
On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I think I should write a FAQ about that... Look like the recording is ok for the 5 minutes that I looked at, but I will look at it in full lenght this week-end. We hope to make it available before mid- July (I don't want to do video editing

Re: What is the best way to handle invalid values from a WOTextField?

2008-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Am 17.06.2008 um 19:32 schrieb Chuck Hill: On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Hi, in the past (until WO 5.4) I often have used a WOTextField with a formatter to prevent errors like this: "java.lang.IllegalArgument

Re: What is the best way to handle invalid values from a WOTextField?

2008-06-17 Thread Ralf Schuchardt
Am 17.06.2008 um 19:32 schrieb Chuck Hill: On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Hi, in the past (until WO 5.4) I often have used a WOTextField with a formatter to prevent errors like this: "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: While trying to invoke the set method "publ

Re: build.xml

2008-06-17 Thread Fredrik Lindgren
Thanks! That did it. Much better. And you are right, I didn't se the Wonder Application until I looked under other... Replace with build.xml is definitely broken however. It uses an older version of the build.xml. Thanks again. /Fredrik 17 jun 2008 kl. 18.32 skrev Mike Schrag: match="c

Re: What is the best way to handle invalid values from a WOTextField?

2008-06-17 Thread Chuck Hill
On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Ralf Schuchardt wrote: Hi, in the past (until WO 5.4) I often have used a WOTextField with a formatter to prevent errors like this: "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: While trying to invoke the set method "public void com.cx.harow.eos._ArztFolgedokLeistung

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Alan Ward
On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Anjo Krank wrote: Just asking: are you also providing a copy of WebObjects (which you can't do according to the license). If not, then why are you giving your users a lesson in copyright law without being a lawyer? Why do you care at all? Is it not Apple's bu

More efficient web service choice

2008-06-17 Thread John Huss
I'm going to be implementing a web service with WO and was wondering if there was a way to do this using something other than the extremely verbose SOAP messages. It's a private service, so I can do whatever I want, but ideally it would be easy to setup both the client and server. And the clients

What is the best way to handle invalid values from a WOTextField?

2008-06-17 Thread Ralf Schuchardt
Hi, in the past (until WO 5.4) I often have used a WOTextField with a formatter to prevent errors like this: "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: While trying to invoke the set method "public void com.cx.harow.eos._ArztFolgedokLeistung $StorageClass.setAnzahl(java.lang.Short)" on an object

Re: build.xml

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
match="com.webobjects.jspservlet.WOServletAdaptor" replace="er.extensions.jspservlet.ERXServletAdaptor" byline="true" /> Actually: destDir="${dest.dir}" customInfoPListContent="$ {customInfoPListContent}" principalClass="${principalClass}" webXML="$ {webXML}" webXML_CustomContent="${webXM

Re: build.xml

2008-06-17 Thread Fredrik Lindgren
Yes this version of build.xml seems to work very well. So the only thing left to do when deploying with Tomcat is to add these lines to the end of the build.woapp target: match="com.webobjects.jspservlet.WOServletAdaptor" replace="er.extensions.jspservlet.ERXServletAdaptor" byline="true"

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
No I am not providing WebObjects. WebObjects is installed using Mike Schrag and Q's installer that downloads it from Apple. Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Anjo Krank wrote: Just asking: are you also providing a copy of WebObjects (which you can't do according to the license). If not, t

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Anjo Krank
Just asking: are you also providing a copy of WebObjects (which you can't do according to the license). If not, then why are you giving your users a lesson in copyright law without being a lawyer? Why do you care at all? Is it not Apple's business to enforce their licenses? They are a 20 bi

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Made it a popup, just to make sure. Took out the other popup about apple branded hardware. it is available at http://web.mac.com/pccdonl/ Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hmm, I already had that statement in the Installer. Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:32 AM, David LeB

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread David LeBer
On 17-Jun-08, at 10:35 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hmm, I already had that statement in the Installer. Well... Then I guess I'd say you had everything covered :-) Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer wrote: On 17-Jun-08, at 9:53 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; I have modified the In

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Hmm, I already had that statement in the Installer. Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:32 AM, David LeBer wrote: On 17-Jun-08, at 9:53 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; I have modified the Installer that I created to include the following popup alert: If Windows is not running on Apple Branded hard

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread David LeBer
On 17-Jun-08, at 9:53 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; I have modified the Installer that I created to include the following popup alert: If Windows is not running on Apple Branded hardware you may not develop applications with WebObjects! If you continue, and this is not Apple Branded Hard

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; I have modified the Installer that I created to include the following popup alert: If Windows is not running on Apple Branded hardware you may not develop applications with WebObjects! If you continue, and this is not Apple Branded Hardware, you are in violation of the WebObjects L

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
What about those who purchased the Windows Development licenses of 5.2, have those been revoked? Is there anyone on the list from Apple that can clarify? I develop on OS X and Mac Pro, so doesn't really apply to my development, but there are many Windows shops out there. If you bought a

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Ah, this license is different from the one for version 5.4 which comes with Leopard. Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Q wrote: License can be found here /Developer/Documentation/Xcode Tools License.rtf or by running the XCode installer D. WebObjects Software. Subject to the terms and con

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Hello; 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Developer Software. Subject to the terms below you may use the Developer Software on Apple-labeled computers to: (i) test the Developer Software; and (ii) develop application and other software. The Developer Software contains WebObjects

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Q
License can be found here /Developer/Documentation/Xcode Tools License.rtf or by running the XCode installer D. WebObjects Software. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you may incorporate the WebObjects Software included in the Developer Software into application program

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Webobjects-dev/2008/Apr/msg00541.html This license only applies to, I think, 5.3 through 5.4.1. There is a new one going forward. ms On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: Where is the text of the license that states this? Anyone know? Don On Jun

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
Where is the text of the license that states this? Anyone know? Don On Jun 17, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Since the development tools are now OpenSource, is Apple able to stipulate where the open source tools are utilized? No. The WebObjects frameworks from Apple are in reality a

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Mike Schrag
Since the development tools are now OpenSource, is Apple able to stipulate where the open source tools are utilized? No. The WebObjects frameworks from Apple are in reality a runtime. There are no Development Tools for WebObjects delivered by Apple any longer (excluding the new nightly bui

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
I was hoping this did not include debugging or profiling. As you need to be able to do this on multiple platforms at times. Since the development tools are now OpenSource, is Apple able to stipulate where the open source tools are utilized? The WebObjects frameworks from Apple are in real

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread Don Lindsay
I was hoping this did not include debugging or profiling. As you need to be able to do this on multiple platforms at times. Don On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:41 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 16/06/2008, at 11:48 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 16-Jun-08, at 9:40 AM, Don Lindsay wrote: So, any installer th

Re: WebObjects 5.4 on Linux (Red Hat Enterprise)

2008-06-17 Thread M.Y. Tjoe
I am also interested in this issues as this may affect our choice of hardware. mac is cool but our IT department prefers windows platform. any apple guys here can confirm this? Regards, Harvey On 17/06/2008, at 12:13 PM, Joe Little wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Lachlan Deck <[

Re: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence dead?

2008-06-17 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Restarted... It required so little maintenance for the last 6 months that I got too complacent :-) Now it looks like it ran out of memory on export operation. Now investigating whether this was a DOS, or that some recent content additions somehow resulted in memory requirements increase.

http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence dead?

2008-06-17 Thread Alexander Spohr
Hi there, we are trying to reach http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence since yesterday. But no response comes back. Port 80 works, refresh too, but confluence seems to be down. Is that the case or do we have a problem ourselves? atze Macintosh-2:~ atze$ telnet wiki.objectstyle.or

Re: Unit testing

2008-06-17 Thread f . jecker
Sorry, I missed the subject Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chuck, I followed your advice and updated my test class to test the content of the EOModelGroup(see below) which appears to be good (One EOModel without any links to other eomodels, containing a single entity). When getting the classdescrip

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2008-06-17 Thread f . jecker
Chuck, I followed your advice and updated my test class to test the content of the EOModelGroup(see below) which appears to be good (One EOModel without any links to other eomodels, containing a single entity). When getting the classdescription using the entity name, everything is ok, when getting