Re: Ajaxy WOBrowser-based ToMany Editor

2010-11-12 Thread David Avendasora
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm working on implementing. I was just wondering if anyone else had already done it in a nice CSS/Ajaxy way so I could get a jump start. I'm trying to put it together in such a way that it is generic enough that it would work for anyone so it can be easily dropped in

Two new podcasts from WOWODC 2010

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Hello everyone, Just the vast majority of the community is using Wonder, we are releasing the Getting Started with Project Wonder recording from WOWODC 2011 for free. It's a really good intro to Wonder and to properties management. Many thanks to Kieran for this! Also, you will find a

Re: Two new podcasts from WOWODC 2010

2010-11-12 Thread Antonio Petri
Thank you Pascal, they will be very useful, especially the Wonder one. Antonio On 12 November 2010 11:23, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: Hello everyone, Just the vast majority of the community is using Wonder, we are releasing the Getting Started with Project Wonder recording from

Re: Ajaxy WOBrowser-based ToMany Editor

2010-11-12 Thread Hugi Thordarson
Hey David, I made you this while waiting for Maven to download internet.jar. https://bitbucket.org/hugi/uswebobjects/changeset/ae9d5e3c675e The .html is just bare bones, though - you'll have to add your own css. Enjoy, - hugi On 12.11.2010, at 11:18, David Avendasora wrote: Yeah, that's

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Hugi Thordarson
The question is more that I don't understand why people wants to rewrite WO when you can simply extend it. I think the problem is obviously more political than technical. Technically you are correct in that WebObjects is extensible with or without PW. Seconded. I'm currently working at a

Re: Ajaxy WOBrowser-based ToMany Editor

2010-11-12 Thread David Avendasora
You rock Hugi! This is way more complete than I had come up with so far! Next on my list is to D2Wify it for ERModernLook integration. Oh, and if Maven hasn't finished with internet.jar, I'd like a Pony also. Not for me, of course, but for David LeBer. He really wants one. Dave On Nov 12,

Re: Ajaxy WOBrowser-based ToMany Editor

2010-11-12 Thread Hugi Thordarson
You're welcome :). Note that the URL was for a changeset so make sure you fetch the most recent version, I made a couple of improvements. And here's your pony. .,,. ,;;*, .-'``;-');;. /' .-. /*;; .'\d\;; .;;;, / o `\;,__.

Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Good news everyone! http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/12openjdk.html Oracle and Apple® today announced the OpenJDK project for Mac OS® X. Apple will contribute most of the key components, tools and technology required for a Java SE 7 implementation on Mac OS X, including a 32-bit and

Fwd: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Matthias Jakob
Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: Von: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca Datum: 12. November 2010 15:23:34 MEZ An: macenterpr...@lists.psu.edu Betreff: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X Antwort an: Mac OS X enterprise deployment project macenterpr...@lists.psu.edu

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Mike Schrag
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Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Antonio Petri
Larry and Steve are good friends, after all... Apple give up on the server business, so it will not compete with Oracle (even if it wasn't that big competitor) and at the same time, probably, fill up its new data center with Oracle kits. Oracle need backing for the OpenJDK, especially in view of

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Kieran Kelleher
And thus all the hissy-fits and panic all over the internet and mailing lists was both amusing and a complete waste of energy! OK, back to work everyone .. java is alive and well on OS X ;-) On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Antonio Petri wrote: Larry and Steve are good friends, after all...

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Joe Little
But what about WO? :) (Ducks for cover...) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Kieran Kelleher kelleh...@gmail.com wrote: And thus all the hissy-fits and panic all over the internet and mailing lists was both amusing and a complete waste of energy! OK, back to work everyone .. java is alive

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Antonio Petri
Maybe, Oracle will pick WO up as well? On 12 November 2010 14:59, Joe Little jmlit...@gmail.com wrote: But what about WO? :) (Ducks for cover...) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Kieran Kelleher kelleh...@gmail.com wrote: And thus all the hissy-fits and panic all over the internet and

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread James Cicenia
I just wrote Steve... I hear he responds these days. Hope I sent it to the correct address?! James On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Joe Little wrote: But what about WO? :) (Ducks for cover...) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Kieran Kelleher kelleh...@gmail.com wrote: And thus all the

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Valerio Luccio
Antonio Petri wrote: Maybe, Oracle will pick WO up as well? I hope not. Their m.o. with open sun products has been to make them commercial (see Sun Grid Engine). -- Valerio Luccio (212) 998-8736 Center for Brain Imaging4 Washington Place, Room 156 New York

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-11-12 à 10:15, Valerio Luccio a écrit : Antonio Petri wrote: Maybe, Oracle will pick WO up as well? I hope not. Their m.o. with open sun products has been to make them commercial (see Sun Grid Engine). They can't do worse than what they did with Oracle Media Objects :-)

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! For those of you scratching their heads... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedrock_(framework) I didn't know that one! :) But Think C was nice, and CodeWarrior was awesome! :) I still have both at home, some of my graduation projects were made using CodeWarrior. Then, OS X showed up. :)

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-11-12 à 11:10, Miguel Arroz a écrit : Hi! For those of you scratching their heads... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedrock_(framework) I didn't know that one! :) But Think C was nice, and CodeWarrior was awesome! :) I still have both at home, some of my graduation projects

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Antonio Petri
+1 I followed the croud and moved to C++ at that time, but still I don't see the reason... Object Pascal was so good, Borland themselves adopted the Object Pascal model, diverting from their Turbo Pascal, for Delphi. No doubt Delphi is still well alive. On 12 November 2010 16:16, Pascal Robert

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Antonio Petri
Yes, we were all waiting for the unifying framework, the write once, compile everywhere solution to the cross platform development. BedRock died because Apple dropped it to work on OpenDoc. Even MacApp was slowly being ported to window, until it was completely axed because, I think, Cocoa was

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! On 2010/11/12, at 16:16, Pascal Robert wrote: THINK Pascal all the way! And not because of the name... WaitNextEvent(WOWODC 2011) MoreHandles(); MoreHandles(); MoreHandles(); Regards, Miguel Arroz ___ Do not post admin requests to the

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-11-12 à 11:23, Antonio Petri a écrit : Yes, we were all waiting for the unifying framework, the write once, compile everywhere solution to the cross platform development. BedRock died because Apple dropped it to work on OpenDoc. Even MacApp was slowly being ported to window, until

Re: [OT] No more XServe

2010-11-12 Thread Ray Kiddy
On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: What do you guys think (if anything) will happen to OSX Server? It seems to me that if there is no X-Serve there is much less purpose for OS X Server edition. That is probably next

Re: [OT] No more XServe

2010-11-12 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Huh? On Nov 12, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org wrote: They literally had no idea of what to do as an investment with it. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list

[OT] No more XServe

2010-11-12 Thread Robert B. Hanviriyapunt
No XServe, No Cry. On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Ray Kiddy wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: What do you guys think (if anything) will happen to OSX Server? It seems to me that if there is no X-Serve there is much

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Chuck Hill
On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: I honestly don't see what Apple gains by forbidding me and my coworkers to use WO. The question at this point is what would they gain by allowing it? -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects -

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Hugi Thordarson
I honestly don't see what Apple gains by forbidding me and my coworkers to use WO. The question at this point is what would they gain by allowing it? ME! ;) - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread David Holt
On 2010-11-12, at 10:39 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: I honestly don't see what Apple gains by forbidding me and my coworkers to use WO. The question at this point is what would they gain by allowing it? ME! I'll write Steve on behalf of the world. :-) ;) - hugi

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread David LeBer
On 2010-11-12, at 1:33 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: I honestly don't see what Apple gains by forbidding me and my coworkers to use WO. The question at this point is what would they gain by allowing it? Does Apple really care? Yes I know

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-11-12 à 13:58, David LeBer a écrit : On 2010-11-12, at 1:33 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: I honestly don't see what Apple gains by forbidding me and my coworkers to use WO. The question at this point is what would they gain by

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Nov 12, 2010, at 1:58 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2010-11-12, at 1:33 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: I honestly don't see what Apple gains by forbidding me and my coworkers to use WO. The question at this point is what would they gain by

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Gargano
Don't forget that tools don't work as well if you're not on a Mac. Rule editor is non-existent. -Mike On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 2010-11-12 à 13:58, David LeBer a écrit : On 2010-11-12, at 1:33 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 12, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Hugi

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Gargano
Does this mean Java Client apps are safe now? -Mike On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Joe Little wrote: But what about WO? :) (Ducks for cover...) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Kieran Kelleher kelleh...@gmail.com wrote: And thus all the hissy-fits and panic all over the internet and mailing

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread David Avendasora
Java Client ?! Did you just say Java Client?? That's crazy talk. :-) Dave On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Michael Gargano wrote: Does this mean Java Client apps are safe now? -Mike On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Joe Little wrote: But what about WO? :) (Ducks for cover...) On Fri, Nov

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
I'm sure it will make some people happy in France :-) Java Client ?! Did you just say Java Client?? That's crazy talk. :-) Dave On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Michael Gargano wrote: Does this mean Java Client apps are safe now? -Mike On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Joe Little

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Chuck Hill
On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 2010-11-11 à 19:12, Chuck Hill a écrit : On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I have a question that I kept to myself for months, but let's go public. People talks about moving away from WO or even writing WO/EOF

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-11-12 à 15:05, Chuck Hill a écrit : On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 2010-11-11 à 19:12, Chuck Hill a écrit : On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: I have a question that I kept to myself for months, but let's go public. People talks about moving

[MEETING] WO-NoVA meeting NEXT THURSDAY 11/18/2010

2010-11-12 Thread Andrew R. Kinnie
Greetings all, October's WO-NoVA meeting is scheduled for NEXT THURSDAY! (Thursday, November 18, 2010) at 6:30 PM at K12 Dave A will do a complete and exhaustive presentation on all aspects of WebObjects and all its related technologies. Or not. I suppose I should have asked him first. If

Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Simon
Does this mean Java Client apps are safe now? surely mike's just teasing mr avendasora...? :-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update

Reminder: Community Ideas on Google Moderator

2010-11-12 Thread Pascal Robert
Just a reminder : don't forget to vote and add your ideas on Google Moderator : http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=352e3 It's not only for ideas for the wiki or wocommunity.org, if you wish to have something in Wonder or elsewhere, you can share your idea over there. -- Pascal

Re: [MEETING] WO-NoVA meeting NEXT THURSDAY 11/18/2010

2010-11-12 Thread David Avendasora
I want food, so I'm RSVPing. As far as my presentation goes... I'll be covering all that and I thought I would also do an exhaustive review of Ruby on Rails and compare and contrast it to WonderObjects. Or not. Dave On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Andrew R. Kinnie wrote: Greetings all,

XServe Petition

2010-11-12 Thread Matthias Jakob
Hi there, if someone of you uses XServes please help us: http://www.xserve-petition.com Thank you! __ Dipl.-Inf.(FH) Matthias Jakob Entwickler Takwa GmbH Friedrich-List-Str. 36 99096 Erfurt Tel.: +49 361 6534096 Fax.: +49 361 6534097 eMail:

Re: Scala and WebObjects

2010-11-12 Thread Mark Wardle
I've heard rumors of WO developers using pink netbooks! (^_~) The Apple rules were written to avoid such horrors. You all appear to have missed the clauses covering stylish hair, personal jets and a playboy lifestyle that are essential parts of the Apple developer contract. (*) Mark (*) That