Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-09-01 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
, 2022 10:22 AM To: Ramsey Gurley ; WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build [You don't often get email from r...@ganymede.org. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] I was able to check out this branch, and then run: mvn clean

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-09-01 Thread Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev
. *From:* D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2022 10:40 PM *To:* WebObjects-Dev List *Subject:* Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Thanks Hugi That worked. Maven didn't copy the built frameworks into /Library/WebObjects/Local/Library

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-08-29 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Thanks Hugi That worked. Maven didn't copy the built frameworks into /Library/WebObjects/Local/Library/Frameworks like the ant install used to (sudo ant -Duser.home=$HOME frameworks.install). But my apps are maven now so they don't need that except

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-07-29 Thread D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev
Thanks Hugi That worked. Maven didn't copy the built frameworks into /Library/WebObjects/Local/Library/Frameworks like the ant install used to (sudo ant -Duser.home=$HOME frameworks.install). But my apps are maven now so they don't need that except for when I was eogenerating. I changed

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-07-28 Thread D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev
FYI, these URLs have changed to the following https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/3c269a3196d0c4f2da486f1109c16d42 https://gist.github.com/hugithordarson/d2ba6da9e4942f4ece95d7a721159cd1 And by the way, how do I build wonder with maven? I need the frameworks built so I can use eogenerate.

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-29 Thread Andrus Adamchik via Webobjects-dev
> On Jun 29, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > In fact, a close second (some would say #1 benefit) is MUCH FASTER builds. > Like 17 times faster. Use mvnd for faster parallel Maven builds: https://github.com/apache/maven-mvnd

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-29 Thread Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev
ould have to write that I think. It's probably not a small > project. > > From: Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 6:12 PM > To: WebObjects-Dev List <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev
On 29 Jun 2022, at 10:42, Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev wrote: > It’s not a completely different issue is it? > > If anyone builds Wonder as part of their CI/CD and is currently using ANT, > they will need to switch to Maven going forward. Is that how you build Aaron, or just a

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
ode in there for gradle natures. Someone would have to write that I think. It's probably not a small project. From: Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 6:12 PM To: WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build I

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev
It’s not a completely different issue is it? If anyone builds Wonder as part of their CI/CD and is currently using ANT, they will need to switch to Maven going forward. While we wish everyone who makes changes to Wonder would make pull requests to integrate them but that doesn’t always happen.

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev
No. We are only talking about the building of Wonder itself. Projects using Wonder can be built in different ways. It is a completely different issue. - ray On 6/28/22 06:45, Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev wrote: I admit I’m only half following this thread but I am still using Ant right now

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev
I admit I’m only half following this thread but I am still using Ant right now — I’ve tried to move to Maven once or twice, but it was a fair amount of work from where I was at Are we considering removal of ant as an option? > On Jun 28, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Don Lindsay via Webobjects-dev >

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-28 Thread Don Lindsay via Webobjects-dev
I use maven almost exclusively for all my projects. Wonder and otherwise. > On Jun 16, 2022, at 17:42, Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Hey guys, > > I've been talking to other Wonder users/committers lately. Keeping the Ant > build configuration up to date in Wonder is

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-21 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
ay, June 21, 2022 4:36 PM To: Ramsey Gurley Cc: WebObjects-Dev List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build You don't often get email from hpra...@gmail.com. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> Hey Ramsey, We have extracted the archetypes from th

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-21 Thread Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev
> To: Dev WO mailto:webobje...@anazys.com>>; > WebObjects-Dev List <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> > Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build > > BTW, > > I would be willing to put some money into a “fund me” kind of thing where

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-19 Thread Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev
at 9:32 AM To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build I’m like Ted, I though it would prevent me from keeping my current (ant) projects as they are. I understand this only applies to building Wonder. I don’t think it would be fair to ask the contrib

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-17 Thread Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev
)" Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build I’m like Ted, I though it would prevent me from keeping my current (ant) projects as they are. I understand this only applies to building Wonder. I don’t think it would be fair to ask the contributors to spend time on keeping a build system for Wond

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-17 Thread Dev WO via Webobjects-dev
y (WO)" > Reply-To: Paul Hoadley > Date: Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM > To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" > Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build > > Hey Ted, > > Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: > > On 17 Jun 2022

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-17 Thread Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev
y, June 16, 2022 at 8:06 PM To: "Ted Petrosky (WO)" Subject: Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build Hey Ted, Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: What ab

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Jérémy DE ROYER via Webobjects-dev
Hi all I dont’ build wonder myself and I still use ant for old projects even if maven works great. if it helps and save time maintaining wonder… yes please, show us the way and move to maven. Have a nice day, Jérémy > Le 17 juin 2022 à 03:14, Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev > a écrit : >

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Ray Kiddy via Webobjects-dev
It has been getting harder and harder to build Wonder with ant. The last time I had to, I ended up not bothering to finish the build. Life is too short. Yes, I am still using ant in my own apps, but that is different. So, my vote is: Make it so. cheers - ray On 6/16/22 17:05, Paul

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
> (and if you're using the builds from jenkins.wocommunity.org > , you're already using the maven built > frameworks). So… This was a blatant lie on my behalf (would love some recipes for crow right now). Jenkins currently uses the ant build. But Maven in

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread D Tim Cummings via Webobjects-dev
I also support this proposal. Thanks for maintaining and improving wonder Henrique et al. Tim On 17/6/22 09:58, Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev wrote: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:12, Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev wrote: What do you think? I fully support this proposal. -- Paul Hoadley

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev
Hey Ted, Already answered, but just for additional reassurance: On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:17, Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev wrote: > What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted > Maven... It won't affect your projects! This is purely about building the

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Hoadley via Webobjects-dev
On 17 Jun 2022, at 08:12, Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev wrote: > What do you think? I fully support this proposal. -- Paul Hoadley https://logicsquad.net/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ ___ Do not post admin requests to the

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev
Hi Ted, Thanks for your feedback. > On 16 Jun 2022, at 19:47, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > > What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted > Maven... We don't mean to cause any harm to existing users. However, supporting two build systems in Wonder slows down

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
Thanks for raising the issue Henrique! It probably comes as no surprise that I support this :). Ted; just to clarify, this proposal only applies to the building of Wonder itself. Wonder's maven build generates artifacts/bundles that can be consumed by Ant applications, so nothing changes in

Re: [Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Theodore Petrosky via Webobjects-dev
What about us guys whose projects are smallish projects and never instituted Maven... Riddle me this how are the docs or examples on the Wiki to implement Maven? Can you point me to some good references so I can come on board? Ted On 6/16/22, 6:42 PM, "Henrique Prange via

[Proposal] Drop Wonder's Ant Build

2022-06-16 Thread Henrique Prange via Webobjects-dev
Hey guys, I've been talking to other Wonder users/committers lately. Keeping the Ant build configuration up to date in Wonder is becoming increasingly counterproductive. Most of us have been using Maven for years. As a result, our environments are not prepared to build the project with Ant,