On 09/08/2006, at 8:52 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:To be honest, without all your hard work, this might not have happened! But that's OK, because the java bridge, EOModeler, and WOBuilder have been EFFECTIVELY deprecated for a long time - you guys just gave them the opportunity to admit it :)Sure, the
I agree it doesn't mean the end of WO. PHP has shipped with OS X for
years now & that didn't kill WO either. However, since WebObjects
Builder was just refreshed last WWDC and XCode began supporting
EOModeler a bit, I doubt we'll be left without a tool to use. All of
those tools could ve
Cocoa EOF Applications?
Please, I would appreciate some words like "it is not dead... do
not panic!"
[system panic:Dino];
On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:40:33 -0400
From: Mike Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A cha
To be honest, without all your hard work, this might not have happened! But that's OK, because the java bridge, EOModeler, and WOBuilder have been EFFECTIVELY deprecated for a long time - you guys just gave them the opportunity to admit it :)On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:44 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:The only t
On 8 de ago de 2006, at 22:38, James Cicenia wrote:Can anybody give us at least a thumbs up, down or sideways with regards to our beloved WebObjects? OK, I installed XCode 2.4 and did a very limited testing. XCode 2.4 looks like a little bit faster than 2.3 in opening the same project and compiling
It is probably hard to justify getting paid for writing such a paltry
amount of code.
On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Karl wrote:
Oh I pity the poor Cocoa developers. All that dead code that they
now have to throw away.
:-)
On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 8, 2006,
Oh I pity the poor Cocoa developers. All that dead code that they now
have to throw away.
:-)
On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
Please everyone - half the problem is everyone asking if it's dead
- it's almost worse.
Here's t
From: Mike Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A change I noticed in Xcode 2.4
To: WebObjects Dev Apple
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I did notice this in the publicly release Xcode 2.4 release:
NOTE: As of the rel
On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:
Please everyone - half the problem is everyone asking if it's dead
- it's almost worse.
Here's the deal from my humble perspective:
1) Apple made a long term commitment to WebObjects when they made
it part of the toolset last year.
2) App
not panic!"
[system panic:Dino];
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:40:33 -0400
From: Mike Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A change I noticed in Xcode 2.4
To: WebObjects Dev Apple
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Co
Not to mention Ulrich Köster, Harald Niesche and others (sorry guys,
no time for checking the commit logs) for his work on WOLips, which
made all of this possible and Andrus Adamchik for starting woproject
in the first place. I was just referring to the tools.
Cheers, Anjo
Am 09.08.2006 um
Big deal.
- EntityModeler, a good, full featured replacement for EOModeler, is
part of WOLips. A lot of new stuff in there, too.
- WOComponent Editor, a good replacement for WOBuilder, is part of
WOLips. Its not graphical, but has validation that actually makes sense.
- RuleModeler, a much en
On 09/08/2006, at 5:40 AM, Mike Nowak wrote:
I did notice this in the publicly release Xcode 2.4 release:
NOTE: As of the release of Xcode 2.4, the Cocoa Java bridge has
been deprecated. This means that,
while still supported with Xcode 2.4, future releases of Xcode may
not support the bri
On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:54 PM, John Larson wrote:
I don't think that until the Script Wars get fought out
I feel a great disturbance in the parse...
sacha
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On 8/8/06, John Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm sorry, Ken. Your rational perspective is no match for the Fear
of Ruby.
Tto append your comments, Ken, and to further argue my way into a
stable state of mind again, this is a technology that has been around
since the NeXT days. (this is wh
I'm sorry, Ken. Your rational perspective is no match for the Fear
of Ruby.
Tto append your comments, Ken, and to further argue my way into a
stable state of mind again, this is a technology that has been around
since the NeXT days. (this is where I get to "gloat" about going to
a colle
Please everyone - half the problem is everyone asking if it's dead -
it's almost worse.
Here's the deal from my humble perspective:
1) Apple made a long term commitment to WebObjects when they made it
part of the toolset last year.
2) Apple uses WebObjects significantly themselves
Sure,
]> Subject: A change I noticed in Xcode 2.4 To: WebObjects Dev Apple <Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I did notice this in the publicly release Xcode 2.4 release: NOTE: As of the rel
On 8 Aug 2006, at 15:03, Joe Little wrote:
On 8/8/06, Robert Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's an idea. Start off every WWDC Keynote with broadcast public
statement:
WebObjects is NOT DEAD! Don't panic.
or
WebObjects is now OFFICIALLY DEAD! ... Ok, you can panic
now...
On 8/8/06, Robert Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's an idea. Start off every WWDC Keynote with broadcast public
statement:
WebObjects is NOT DEAD! Don't panic.
or
WebObjects is now OFFICIALLY DEAD! ... Ok, you can panic now...
Cue Michael Palin and John Cleese.. Parot and
Here's an idea. Start off every WWDC Keynote with broadcast public statement:WebObjects is NOT DEAD! Don't panic.orWebObjects is now OFFICIALLY DEAD! ... Ok, you can panic now...On Aug 8, 2006, at 5:42 PM, David LeBer wrote:Given the NDA and all that, I think it is safe to say:It's not de
On 8-Aug-06, at 2:38 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
Can anybody give us at least a thumbs up, down or sideways with
regards to our beloved WebObjects?
Someone has to know!
- James Cicenia
Given the NDA and all that, I think it is safe to say:
It's not dead. (aka: Don't Panic!)
Little else is
Can anybody give us at least a thumbs up, down or sideways with
regards to our beloved WebObjects?
Someone has to know!
- James Cicenia
On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Mike Nowak wrote:
I did notice this in the publicly release Xcode 2.4 release:
NOTE: As of the release of Xcode 2.4, the Coco
plists ...
On 08.08.2006, at 14:10 Uhr, Chuck Hill wrote:
Eclipse. Just like a real developer. :-)
On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
How would one be able to edit their EOModels, if EOModeller is
gone and the plugin in Xcode is gone?
With Kind Regards,
Denni
Eclipse. Just like a real developer. :-)
On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
How would one be able to edit their EOModels, if EOModeller is gone
and the plugin in Xcode is gone?
With Kind Regards,
Dennis Gaastra, M.B.A.[sfu.ca], B.Sc.[ubc.ca]
Chief Technology Off
How would one be able to edit their EOModels, if EOModeller is gone and the plugin in Xcode is gone?With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra, M.B.A.[sfu.ca], B.Sc.[ubc.ca]Chief Technology Officer,WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.HQ: (+1) 604.921.1333Fax: (+1) 604.921.4313Cell: (+1) 604.787.2532
There are other more pessimistic inferences possible :-)
1) Apple is planning to get rid of WO and put their weight behind
Ruby on Rails!! There was a brief mention of Ruby during the keynote
I think. I hope not because I just spent a whole lot of time learning
WO! :-).
2) They are switch
I did notice this in the publicly release Xcode 2.4 release:
NOTE: As of the release of Xcode 2.4, the Cocoa Java bridge has been
deprecated. This means that,
while still supported with Xcode 2.4, future releases of Xcode may
not support the bridge or other
dependent features. Due to this,
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