On 11/06/2008, at 12:09 PM, Henrique Prange wrote:
By the way, there is a screenshot where you illustrate which features
should be selected while installing WOLips. The Maven Support is
selected, but I think it is unnecessary because this feature is for
Maven 1 support, not Maven 2.
Any chanc
Le 08-06-13 à 08:28, T Worman a écrit :
WO'ers:
About fluffy bunny: At one point I think I had to select
"WOnderApplication" to get the fluffy bunny layout for new projects.
Is that still the case? Or will you also get this layout when
selecting "WebObjects Application?"
You get this l
WO'ers:
About fluffy bunny: At one point I think I had to select
"WOnderApplication" to get the fluffy bunny layout for new projects.
Is that still the case? Or will you also get this layout when
selecting "WebObjects Application?"
Tim
On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Joe Little wrote:
The
On 12/06/2008, at 6:51 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:34 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
My question was more of this: I already keep my dependancies (as
deployed) in svn. So I don't have any fear of them being
unavailable in the future. Given that (and that I am comfortable
wit
The discussion re-insued this morning.
>From Elmer Fudd we thought that perhaps the Maven layout is really the
opposite of the Fluffy Bunny. So, the trend takes it to "Daffy Duck
Layout"
Pierre and others found that almost acceptable, but we can't quite
leave Machiavellian in the dust.
So, how a
On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:34 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
My question was more of this: I already keep my dependancies (as
deployed) in svn. So I don't have any fear of them being
unavailable in the future. Given that (and that I am comfortable
with the implications of that as I understand them), w
Let's pet fluffy bunny.
So Wrong
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
On 12/06/2008, at 9:15 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Yeah, it's worth saying that you don't want to 'switch' blindly.
I spent a few months reading and kicking the tyres. It's one of
those things yo
On 11-Jun-08, at 6:04 PM, Joe Little wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Ricardo Parada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:04 AM, George Domurot wrote:
So... I saw/heard a little bit about Fluffy Bunny at WOWODC. And,
I he
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Joe Little wrote:
Let's pet fluffy bunny.
Well, perhaps the Maven layout is the "Elmer Fudd" layout -- wabbit
season!
Hunt the wabbit!
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Ricardo Parada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
>
>> On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:04 AM, George Domurot wrote:
>>
>>> So... I saw/heard a little bit about Fluffy Bunny at WOWODC. And, I heard
>>> it again mentioned on stage yest
On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:04 AM, George Domurot wrote:
So... I saw/heard a little bit about Fluffy Bunny at WOWODC. And, I
heard it again mentioned on stage yesterday.
I searched for some specifics about it, and can't seem to find any
details.
Hi Chuck,
I think WebObjects libraries are a good example of how dependency
management (and I'm talking in a general way) can make developer's
life easier. Do you think it is a good idea to put every WebObjects
library into SVN? How about storing all versions of WebObjects
libraries into SVN (5.2,
On 12/06/2008, at 9:15 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Yeah, it's worth saying that you don't want to 'switch' blindly.
I spent a few months reading and kicking the tyres. It's one of
those things you really need to read up on to see if it works for
I've been told that was inappropriate. I meant Donkey, fingers typed
something else...
On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:31 PM, George Domurot wrote:
How about *** Layout?
On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:
Bullemic Badger Layout might work.
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, David Avendasora w
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:04 AM, George Domurot wrote:
So... I saw/heard a little bit about Fluffy Bunny at WOWODC. And, I
heard it again mentioned on stage yesterday.
I searched for some specifics about it, and can't seem to find any
details.
I've just started using Eclipse/WOLips this week
On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:50 AM, Q wrote:
On 11/06/2008, at 8:20 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 11.06.2008 um 11:59 schrieb Q:
intuitive configurability as ant.
Uh. You're kidding, right? Right??
Probably not the best phrasing. By that I meant that ant is not
magic, you want it to do anythin
On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Yeah, it's worth saying that you don't want to 'switch' blindly.
I spent a few months reading and kicking the tyres. It's one of
those things you really need to read up on to see if it works for you.
And yes, you want to:
a) lock down your
Hi Andrew,
I've updated the wiki documentation. There is information about
eomodels and a warning about flattened resources.
You can add some resource information in your pom.xml in order to
flatten resources. For example:
...
WebServerResources
How about Ass Layout?
On Jun 11, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:
Bullemic Badger Layout might work.
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
"standard maven layout"
Standard Maven Layout? That's no good.
We've got to f
Bullemic Badger Layout might work.
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
"standard maven layout"
Standard Maven Layout? That's no good.
We've got to fix this _now_ if there's any chance of having it used
on stage at next
I vote for Charging Dung Beetle Layout.
Don
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:16 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
"standard maven layout"
Standard Maven Layout? That's no good.
We've got to fix this _now_ if there's any chance of having it used
on stag
Hi Quinton,
On 11/06/2008, at 7:59 PM, Q wrote:
On 11/06/2008, at 5:59 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Yeah, it's worth saying that you don't want to 'switch' blindly.
I spent a few months reading and kicking the tyres. It's one of
those things you really need to read up on to see if it works for
On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 10.06.2008 um 22:36 schrieb Mike Schrag:
To reiterate, this is nightly BINARY BUILDS, not nightly SOURCE
drops.
Without any reasonable release info, too.. so you may decide for
yourself if you want or need that.
Cheers, Anjo
Well,
On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:16 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
"standard maven layout"
Standard Maven Layout? That's no good.
We've got to fix this _now_ if there's any chance of having it used
on stage at next year's WWDC.
Horny Toad Layout?
C
machiavellian is my vote :)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:16 AM, David Avendasora
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
>
>> "standard maven layout"
>
> Standard Maven Layout? That's no good.
>
> We've got to fix this _now_ if there's any chance of having it
On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:
"standard maven layout"
Standard Maven Layout? That's no good.
We've got to fix this _now_ if there's any chance of having it used on
stage at next year's WWDC.
Horny Toad Layout?
Cuddly Chinchilla Layout?
Flemmy Thrakazog Layout?
Viciou
There is an undeniable improvement over .5 - .8 versions that I
watched closely (I haven't checked 2.0.9 yet). There is still hope in
the evolution...
Andrus
On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Henrique Prange wrote:
I think it is true for Maven 2.0.8 and older. But Maven 2.0.9 have
plug-in vers
There is one thing about Maven that I still don't get - blind advocacy
that lures new users by forgetting to mention the "misery" factor.
Some projects just have this aura of a cult that ignores all
criticism. Please don't take this personally. I am simply referring to
a repeating pattern t
Hello Henrique;
If you have time, could you be able to add to the wiki some
information about how it handles flattening resources in the "standard
maven layout" and in the example given, where it would expect to find
".eomodeld" bundles?
cheers.
If you use Maven you can find more inform
Hi George,
If you use Maven you can find more information about the standard
directory layout here [1] (In the end of the page).
[1]http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/woapplication-archetype
Cheers,
Henrique
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Simon McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
On 11/06/2008, at 10:41 PM, Henrique Prange wrote:
Hi Q,
Thank you for replying.
Sonatype is the company that develops m2eclipse now. They moved the
codehaus code to their repository. If you go to the m2eclipse codehaus
site you will see that. :)
So, is Apple Maven plug-in using an older ver
I think it is true for Maven 2.0.8 and older. But Maven 2.0.9 have
plug-in versions frozen for the greater part of lifecycle plug-ins.
The lack of defined plug-in versions was one of the greatest
responsible for unpredictable behavior in the past.
In addition, they have pushed 9 release candidates
Hi George -
Please someone will correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it's all in
the build.xml file:-
FBL just implies how the build process locates your resources, web
server resources etc. So when using FBL anything in a /Resources is
added to resources, anything in /WebServerResource
Hi Ricardo,
Lachlan gave you a great overview of why use Maven. If you want to
know more, look at [1]. I've added some links about general Maven
stuff.
Just to summarize, Maven handles the entire lifecycle of a project -
from project creation, to build, deploy and versioning (SCM and
binary). It
So... I saw/heard a little bit about Fluffy Bunny at WOWODC. And, I
heard it again mentioned on stage yesterday.
I searched for some specifics about it, and can't seem to find any
details.
I've just started using Eclipse/WOLips this weekend... can someone be
clear about accessing/using Fu
Hi Q,
Thank you for replying.
Sonatype is the company that develops m2eclipse now. They moved the
codehaus code to their repository. If you go to the m2eclipse codehaus
site you will see that. :)
So, is Apple Maven plug-in using an older version of m2eclipse? I hope not.
Cheers,
Henrique
On T
On 11/06/2008, at 8:20 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 11.06.2008 um 11:59 schrieb Q:
intuitive configurability as ant.
Uh. You're kidding, right? Right??
Probably not the best phrasing. By that I meant that ant is not magic,
you want it to do anything, it has to go into your build config. I
Maybe not "intuitive". But "predictable" is definitely a property of
Ant, but not Maven.
Andrus
On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
Am 11.06.2008 um 11:59 schrieb Q:
intuitive configurability as ant.
Uh. You're kidding, right? Right??
Cheers, Anjo
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Am 11.06.2008 um 11:59 schrieb Q:
intuitive configurability as ant.
Uh. You're kidding, right? Right??
Cheers, Anjo
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On 11/06/2008, at 5:59 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
Yeah, it's worth saying that you don't want to 'switch' blindly.
I spent a few months reading and kicking the tyres. It's one of
those things you really need to read up on to see if it works for you.
So are you currently using Maven for real?
Yeah, it's worth saying that you don't want to 'switch' blindly.
I spent a few months reading and kicking the tyres. It's one of those
things you really need to read up on to see if it works for you.
And yes, you want to:
a) lock down your versions
b) put 3rd party dependencies into your shar
In the sake of a balanced view you may also read this:
http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2007/11/maven-wont-get-fooled-again.html
Sort of matches my experience - the stated benefits of Maven are too
big to resist the switch, but get ready for some major pain.
Andrus
On Jun 11, 2008, at 1
Just some random thoughts...
On 11/06/2008, at 4:16 PM, Ricardo Parada wrote:
I know very little about maven. Why would one want to build apps
this way
Lots of reasons. Some WO(Lips) particulars
- classpath works ;-) It's all defined once.
- not dependent on installed environment (e.g., spu
I know very little about maven. Why would one want to build apps this
way and use this project structure?
Is it so that it builds your projects and apps with the right version
of WO and other jars? The deployed app will then use / include the
version specified during the build? Is that w
Looks like we're getting duplication of effort here...
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Apple+Maven+Nightly+Builds
On 10-Jun-08, at 6:32 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
On Tuesday, June 10, 2008, at 08:57PM, "Henrique Prange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Can I contribute in any way?
On 11/06/2008, at 12:09 PM, Henrique Prange wrote:
Hi Mark,
I've tried to create a WO Maven Application and a WO Maven Framework
and I've got the following exception for both (after finishing the
wizard):
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/maven/project/MavenProject
at
org
.objects
Hi Mark,
I've tried to create a WO Maven Application and a WO Maven Framework
and I've got the following exception for both (after finishing the
wizard):
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/maven/project/MavenProject
at
org.objectstyle.wolips.apple.mavenintegration.wizards.MavenProjectWiz
Hi Lachlan,
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Lachlan Deck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On 11/06/2008, at 11:32 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
>
> Just a couple of questions:
> 1) To put the nightly on the intranet (rather than local webserver doc root)
> is there a preference or something f
Hi Mark,
On 11/06/2008, at 11:32 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
On Tuesday, June 10, 2008, at 08:57PM, "Henrique Prange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Can I contribute in any way? :)
Sure, please have a look at these instructions and let me know what
you think.
Apologies in advance if there are wik
On Tuesday, June 10, 2008, at 08:57PM, "Henrique Prange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Can I contribute in any way? :)
Sure, please have a look at these instructions and let me know what you think.
Apologies in advance if there are wiki related problems... I'm learning how to
work with the thing.
Very good news! Thanks!
Following Maven standards. Perfect!
Now some questions:
The groupId of Apple libraries will be com.webobjects? I'm asking that
because WOProject Maven plug-ins and Wonder Maven builds both use
com.apple.webobjects. So, should we change the configuration on these
projects?
This was discussed at lunch :)
Careful, Guantanamo is only a step away!
Cheers, Anjo
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To reiterate, this is nightly BINARY BUILDS, not nightly SOURCE
drops.
Without any reasonable release info, too.. so you may decide for
yourself if you want or need that.
This was discussed at lunch :) They're looking into possibilities.
ms
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Am 10.06.2008 um 22:36 schrieb Mike Schrag:
To reiterate, this is nightly BINARY BUILDS, not nightly SOURCE drops.
Without any reasonable release info, too.. so you may decide for
yourself if you want or need that.
Cheers, Anjo
iFill, free music from thousands of radio streams for your i
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
To reiterate, this is nightly BINARY BUILDS, not nightly SOURCE drops.
ms
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Mark Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone!
>
> WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
> WOLips has been extended to be able to build WOF apps against the nightly
> builds.
>
> We have it on good authority that this can be openly
Apple just made me Ink! Sheweee, this is good stuff.
Don
On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Hi Everyone!
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
WOLips has been extended to be able to build WOF apps against the
nightly builds.
We have it on good authori
Apple just made me Ink! Sheweee, this is good stuff.
Don
On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Hi Everyone!
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
WOLips has been extended to be able to build WOF apps against the
nightly builds.
We have it on good authori
And I was about to ask on the WOLips list what the heck "Apple Maven"
support means in the nightly today!
Thanks!
David (not at WWDC) Holt
On 10-Jun-08, at 10:36 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Hi Everyone!
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
WOLips has been extended to
October 2003.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=43532
Alan
On Jun 10, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Simon McLean wrote:
Bloody hell! When did hell freeze over ?
Simon
On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:36, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Hi Everyone!
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site
About an hour ago. :) brrr
-lon
On 6/10/08, Simon McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bloody hell! When did hell freeze over ?
>
> Simon
>
> On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:36, Mark Ritchie wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
>> WOLips has been ext
Bloody hell! When did hell freeze over ?
Simon
On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:36, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Hi Everyone!
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
WOLips has been extended to be able to build WOF apps against the
nightly builds.
We have it on good authority that this
Hi Everyone!
WebObjects Nightly Builds are now available on the ADC site.
WOLips has been extended to be able to build WOF apps against the nightly
builds.
We have it on good authority that this can be openly discussed.
Welcome to the new world and thanks to Pierre Frisch for making this happe
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