RE: [Webware-discuss] Minimal object-relational mapper...?

2002-03-20 Thread Huy Do
Hi, Just wondering if you guys have seen Torque from the Jakarta Turbine project. It seems very complete. How does middle kit compare to this project ? Thanks Huy > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve > Waterbury > Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread Ian Bicking
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 22:21, Aaron Held wrote: > The coding and logic were easy to understand at first, but I > wound up having 1 template per webpage per company (theme) per > thread in memory all the time. > So running 10 threads for 5 clients w 8 pages put 400 templates > into ram all the time.

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread Aaron Held
> > delegated out for each domain. If you're using the template approach > > you could just set up a master site that can be themed / branded > > differently depending on what virtual domain it is accessed from. > > I am wanting to do the second. Each domain is going to have the exact same > func

Re: [Webware-discuss] Minimal object-relational mapper...?

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Waterbury
Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: > > Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Or do all Workers go in the > > same table? Or does each class get its own table only with its > > additional attributes? > > > > How is a reference to a Worker stored in the db? PostgreSQL does support table inheritance. I

RE: [Webware-discuss] Stopping servlet processing and redirecting client

2002-03-20 Thread Edmund Lian
Geoff wrote: >You could write your own abort() method. This is completely untested, but >you could try something like this. Add this code to your SitePage class: > >class AbortTransaction(Exception): pass > >class SitePage(Page): > ... > def abort(self): >

Re: [Webware-discuss] Minimal object-relational mapper...?

2002-03-20 Thread Magnus Lie Hetland
Chuck Esterbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I don't think I'd need it for my application. (And, btw, Postgres > > supports array columns, so I could even store lists directly... > > Though putting them in a separate table wouldn't be that hard, I > > think. Again, naming conventions could help out

[Webware-discuss] EmailKit 0.1.0

2002-03-20 Thread Ian Bicking
Jason Hildebrand pointed out a little of what I needed to do to configure Exim, so I was able to properly test EmailKit. I wrote some documentation to go with it, and now there is EmailKit 0.1.0 You can find it at: http://www.colorstudy.net/software/webware/EmailKit-0.1.0.tar.gz You can read the

[Webware-discuss] problem deleting MiddleKit objects

2002-03-20 Thread Jason Hildebrand
I'm having a problem deleting a MK object which is a member of a list. Assume the following model: Class Attribute Type - Item container Container namestring Container namestring it

[Webware-discuss] FFK problems

2002-03-20 Thread Luke Opperman
Hello all - Got a strange problem today. On our development server, everything is running fine. On our live server, a couple of our FunFormKit FormServlets seem to be forgetting their overrideMethod. Some of these are mutable forms, most are not. And several are working without a problem. Here's

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can Webware really Handle it ?

2002-03-20 Thread Tavis Rudd
On Wednesday 20 March 2002 12:11, Ian Bicking wrote: > On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 12:08, Tavis Rudd wrote: > > This much easier and way more efficient than calculating these > > relative paths in your Servlet code. It allows you to do this: > > > > rather than this: > > > height="XX" /> > > But th

Re: [Webware-discuss] dumping MiddleKit database...

2002-03-20 Thread Stefan Karlsson
On 20 Mar 2002 09:46:54 -0600, Jason Hildebrand wrote: >On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 02:34, Stefan Karlsson wrote: >> >A solution would be to implement a "dump" which outputs the >>objects >> >in >> >the same format as the samples.csv file, so that MiddleKit can >> >easily >> >reload the objects, even if

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread dennis
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Tavis Rudd wrote: > Hmm, is the html going to be generated from a centrally controlled > template for each virtual domain, or will html generation be > delegated out for each domain. If you're using the template approach > you could just set up a master site that can be

RE: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example page

2002-03-20 Thread Ian Bicking
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 11:20, Love, Jay wrote: > As I sat down to write a response to this proposal of per servlet > extraURLPath, saying this will be really hard to do, I decided to think > before I responded (a rare thing). And actually, this might not be too > terribly difficult. > > The way e

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can Webware really Handle it ?

2002-03-20 Thread Ian Bicking
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 12:08, Tavis Rudd wrote: > ** Use mod_rewrite to do relative path calculations instead of doing > them in Python code. e.g. if you have site global directories for > your stylesheets, images, etc. that you need to access from multiple > subdirectories of the site, do somet

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread Ian Bicking
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 11:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to use a python servlet to pull a chunk of html out of a database, > parse it for 'PSP' tags and then self.writeln it. > > What would people suggest for doing this? I don't know if there's a lot of benefit of keeping it in a database

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example p age

2002-03-20 Thread Mike Orr
Ignore this part. I forgot to cut it out of the e-mail after I realized why you need to backtrack. On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:57:50AM -0800, Mike Orr wrote: > Why do you have to backtrack multiple levels? As you go down the URL > levels, you will either match a directory, a file or nothing. >

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example p age

2002-03-20 Thread Mike Orr
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:20:42PM -0500, Love, Jay wrote: > As I sat down to write a response to this proposal of per servlet > extraURLPath, saying this will be really hard to do, I decided to think > before I responded (a rare thing). And actually, this might not be too > terribly difficult. >

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread Tavis Rudd
Hmm, is the html going to be generated from a centrally controlled template for each virtual domain, or will html generation be delegated out for each domain. If you're using the template approach you could just set up a master site that can be themed / branded differently depending on what

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread dennis
What I've got now is one psp page that gives the common body & such to all the web pages. The psp page calls a method in a servlet to generate the rest of the page. I have a hidden variable named page that gets set to determine what gets generated for each request. -- --- Dennis Sacks [EMAIL P

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread dennis
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Tavis Rudd wrote: > You could use Cheetah to do the parsing/compiling of the html string. > It can handle <% exec %> and <%= eval %> tags in addition to > Cheetah's standard syntax. As far as I know, the official PSP that > comes with Webware can't be used for this sort

RE: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread Love, Jay
PSP can do it, but I'd probably need to tweak some things. There is a command line interface to PSP already. We'd just need to set it up so it could be used as a module. Jay > -Original Message- > From: Tavis Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:48 PM > T

Re: [Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread Tavis Rudd
You could use Cheetah to do the parsing/compiling of the html string. It can handle <% exec %> and <%= eval %> tags in addition to Cheetah's standard syntax. As far as I know, the official PSP that comes with Webware can't be used for this sort of thing. Jay, is there some way to do it? W

[Webware-discuss] 'interpreting' html pulled out of database

2002-03-20 Thread dennis
Hi, I want to use a python servlet to pull a chunk of html out of a database, parse it for 'PSP' tags and then self.writeln it. What would people suggest for doing this? -- --- Dennis Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Things are falling down on me, heavy things I could not see" _

RE: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example p age

2002-03-20 Thread Love, Jay
As I sat down to write a response to this proposal of per servlet extraURLPath, saying this will be really hard to do, I decided to think before I responded (a rare thing). And actually, this might not be too terribly difficult. The way extraURLPathInfo works is that when we get the request, we

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can Webware really Handle it ?

2002-03-20 Thread Tavis Rudd
I don't have any experience with large installations like this, but here's a few strategies that could mitigate the need for a large pool of servers: ** keep the processing that actually occurs in WebKit to a minimum by serving all static requests directly from Apache / Squid. Only serve dyn

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example p age

2002-03-20 Thread Mike Orr
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:20:42AM -0500, Geoffrey Talvola wrote: > Maybe it's time to make extraPathInfo configurable on a servlet-by-servlet > basis (perhaps by overloading a method or calling some method in the > servlet's __init__)? One vote for yes. http://webware.colorstudy.net/twiki/bin/v

Re: [Webware-discuss] dumping MiddleKit database...

2002-03-20 Thread Jason Hildebrand
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 02:34, Stefan Karlsson wrote: > >A solution would be to implement a "dump" which outputs the objects > >in > >the same format as the samples.csv file, so that MiddleKit can > >easily > >reload the objects, even if the classids change. This "dump" could > >also > >be useful f

RE: [Webware-discuss] Can Webware really Handle it ?

2002-03-20 Thread Geoffrey Talvola
Huy Do wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am in the process of starting a major development project > in Python, and > was evaluating the use of Webware as the framework for the > application. > > I am basically looking for views on whether Webware can handle 400-500 > concurrent users 24/7 365 days a

RE: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example p age

2002-03-20 Thread Geoffrey Talvola
Maybe it's time to make extraPathInfo configurable on a servlet-by-servlet basis (perhaps by overloading a method or calling some method in the servlet's __init__)? - Geoff > -Original Message- > From: Love, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:55 AM > To: '

RE: [Webware-discuss] Webkit.Cookie suggestion

2002-03-20 Thread Geoffrey Talvola
Matt Feifarek wrote: > I'm starting to use Webkit.Cookie and I'm frustrated that the > expires method > only takes a string, rather than a python date/time float. > > Of course one can use time.time() and some string > substitution etcetera to > accomplish the same thing, but it would be nice t

RE: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example page

2002-03-20 Thread Love, Jay
I wrote a servlet a long time ago that does this. However, it relies on having extraPathInfo turned on. I'd put it in, but we have extraPathInfo turned off by default. There's other ways to do it, though. Jay > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Esterbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > S

Re: [Webware-discuss] Can't see Docs from within Webkit example page

2002-03-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Sunday 17 March 2002 02:19 pm, Ernesto Revilla wrote: > Dear Chuck, Geofff and Co, > > I recently installed Webware v7b2 and found that docs of MiddleKit > and others are not directly accessible thru the Webkit example pages. > I added some new contexts to view them thru the Web. It would be ni

Re: [Webware-discuss] Caching

2002-03-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Sunday 17 March 2002 10:57 am, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: > I'm considering using an XML-based content system (with either XSL or > just plain python transformation scripts), and wondered if the > caching system used in PSP is easily transferrable to other systems? > (It seems that caching is on

Re: [Webware-discuss] Email adapter

2002-03-20 Thread Tripp Lilley
On 19 Mar 2002, Ian Bicking wrote: > Then I'm assuming /path/to/WebKitEmail is run (and it has a > #!/usr/bin/env python at the top, and is chmod a+x), and stdin is the > email, headers and all. No output is expected of it. > > That's how I understand it. I can run the adapter from the command

Re: [Webware-discuss] Minimal object-relational mapper...?

2002-03-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Friday 15 March 2002 09:50 am, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote: > I wouldn't dream of using a 10 character string in the first place. > I'd use a foreign key, probably using an id (int). That would go for > any object references. > > > Prehaps this is something > > that "foreign keys" in Postgres coul

Re: [Webware-discuss] dumping MiddleKit database...

2002-03-20 Thread Stefan Karlsson
On 19 Mar 2002 13:16:05 -0600, Jason Hildebrand wrote: >On a number of occasions, I would have found it useful to be able to >dump the entire MiddleKit object database to a file which I could >later >reload. > >I can do this with database tools (i.e. mysqldump, and later reload >the >file), but if