are there any documents relating to using say sqlite from inside of
webware? I haven't found any db docs on the webware site other than
middlekit, which doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for. Any pointers
to information would be appreciated.
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Thanks!
So, from this, it says it's very slow, causes weird errors, and
generally should not be used. I can see why, since it starts a new
instance and shuts it down for every page load.
Is there another way to make changes show up right away?
If not, how do you do your code/test/release cycle?
So, I'm testing some stuff, and I have to restart the server for my
changes to servlets to show up. I've tried clearing the cache, but it
does not help.
Is there a way to not have to restart the server on my machine for each
change?
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What exactly do these attachks involve ? Are you talking about some sort
of javascript attack ? or Robot like behaviour (DOS) ?
here's a description:
http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/061902-1.shtml
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> Tuesday, October 7, 2003, 7:38:34 AM, you wrote:
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> >> >> The same pages works fast, and the
> >> >> same pages sometimes display after long delay.
>
> > Could it be the
ay.
Could it be the delay is happening the first time a new section is hit,
causing a time-consuming import? I'm having this at a site I'm working
on, and the delay is 30 seconds or more. The solution here would be to
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others prefer to use with WebKit.
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h is either mod_webkit or a cgi-program.
> You cannot connect directly with a browser to the AppServer on port
> 8086 (or any other port). Or well you can but you get "bad marshall
> data".
Understood, but wouldn't be worth to handle this kind of error, so appserver
w
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move to the right sidebar (now under their category), then eventually
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it handles multiple processes accessing the
database simultaneously (as opposed to a multithreaded Webware
application which is one process); but supposedly ZEO does such
multiplexing.
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error messages or cached
data. With PHP, you'd have to reinitialize it from source every
transaction. With an application server, you can store them in module
globals as Ian suggests, and they are "already there" for the next
transaction. That's the kind of state Webware gives
And Page.py is not a core part of Webware, it's merely one possible
framework for those sites that find it convenient.
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way to be right. It's also a useful way to hide away a bunch of
error checkers, if the method checks for various conditions and
raises an exception if found, or None otherwise. I usually call
such methods check* .
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>
> On 09/20/2002 11:15:07 AM Mike wrote:
>
> >In any case, if we decide not to put Webware in site-packages/, it
> >should go into /usr/local/* by default if we're making a generic
> >installer for sev
he local sysadmin have to right to install things into /usr .
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ence it and print the original object's
type and content. If the original object has died, it'll print None
instead; I'm not sure what you'd do at that point, how you'd figure
out what it used to be and where it came from.
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that platform.
There's no universal standard for documentation, but
/usr/local/doc/webware and /usr/local/doc/webware/html is reasonable.
There's also no standard for data files (servlets), but
/home/webware may be reasonable based on the precedent of
Apache's /home/htdocs . D
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 12:21:38PM -0700, Ray Leyva wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:50:34 -0700
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Orr) wrote:
> > > - Installing Webware involves calling install.py at its final location
> >
> > This and most of the other issues would be
ies only
to FTP. I think Apache uses /home/htdocs as the default
document root, but I've rarely seen a running Apache server
configured this way. So there is a weak precedent for using
/home/webkit as the default AppWorkDir.
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s in, but I don't know if we need the complication
of automating this.
If the sysadmin runs MakeAppWorkDir, yeah, he will want to specify
the ownership/group.
> - mod_webkit (on Unix) or wkcgi (on Windows) could be installed or
> not.
I haven't used it, but it was supposedly
added for search engines. I'm not sure if it's in the stable
version or only in the 4.x alpha.
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e hierarchy non-portable, but it seemed like the
best workaround in this case.
The alernative would be to turn off ExtraPathInfo globally, but then I
couldn't use it at all.
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placeholders in the query string).
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is that it works through triple-quoted strings, so you don't have to
make special arrangements every time a docstring begins or ends.
(Yes, you can use "if 0:", but then you have to indent the whole block
and it must be syntact
syntax. I
wish the editors would agree on a common syntax for this.
> It sure indents well, though.
Indentation is the biggest reason I don't use emacs. It
tries to be so smart that it won't let you override its opinion of
where the line should start. But sometimes I want to put an
tures are needed or which could be designed better. I just program
around it to make my applications compatible with its site framework.
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some other purpose, even if both servlets exist in the same application,
and even if some browsers forget to set the Content-type. We'd just
have to make sure FieldStorage doesn't blow up if given random input.
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en and debugged (unless you want to use the
Python implementation). Whereas mx.DateTime is available now. Or am I
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ersion number in the package
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when you want to.
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> On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 11:44, Mike Orr wrote:
> > On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 05:07:13AM -0700, Steve Freitas wrote:
> > > > I am pretty sure that the mxDateTime isn't "stock" in any of the pyth
f the risk is small.
So they upgrade at certain discrete points, such as when they are
revising that big application anyway. As a non-Python example, my
company has a binary-only Solaris program that runs on Linux 2.2 but not
on 2.4. So that server has to stay on 2.2 because it would cost several
tabases return the identifier as part of the add
call. That would be the best scenario. I find I usually *do* want
the object ID, because I have to keep an in-memory index of rows for
some purpose or another anyway, and I need to add that one to the list.
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uld like to redirect each article to a new URL
/article/1234
or (in other cases) redirect a few articles while letting all
the others pass thorugh.
But whenever I try to use mod_rewrite, it strips the query string
off the source URI, so I can't match according to query string.
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Is *THAT* what those are for. I always wondered why Word's HTML
generator uses my initials in its style names.
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Just be sure not to let two threads share the same template instance at
the same time. (It's OK to share template classes.) We haven't fully
codified the thread safety of template instances.
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base template (if using inheritance), along with a 'print' variable in
the searchList. Then you'd only need one template for each page rather
than a pair of templates.
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A very excite game
So cool a flash,enjoy it , name=Nt324-00.doc
A very new game
How are you
A IE 6.0 patch , name=sidprod1[1].htm
Password. Make sure you remove the cookies by
The command line , file=KEYBOARD.TXT
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Show your patriotism! .usa is predicted to
be even bigger than .com! Reserve your domain now -- before your
competitor does!
I do wish the alternate top-level domain services (e.g., name.space)
would get their act together (http://name-space.com/). They seem to be
trying to grab market sha
d add a config var to control that
> maximum length.
And add "..." to the end to show it's been trimmed.
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applications that could get by with pyRXL for input and 'print' or
your template system of choice for output, without ever having to
touch DOM, XSLT or SAX at all. And that the lack of such a tool has
held back the number of XML-aware Python application
pyrxp.html
>
> I haven't checked out pyrxp yet but have you all tried XPath? It's
> really easy to access XML info with it.
No, what's xpath? ... Hmm, Parnassus lists three xpath packages (xml_indexer,
a 4Suite tool, and PyXPath). Which do you recommend?
http://www.v
ough and grab whatever data you want.
http://www.reportlab.com/xml/pyrxp.html
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he inquiries in and get the results out,
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In any case, there's also XMLForms lurking around somewhere.
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common to all
child pages. (See the #block directive in the Cheetah Users' Guide.)
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SetHandler apache-core-default-handler
but I don't know how you can change the handler back to the default once
it's been set to something else.
(Added to the wiki at
http://webware.colorstudy.net/twiki/bin/view/Webware/ModRewriteRecipes )
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ntain your Webware source.
Did you add that or did Webware automatically add it? You shouldn't
need to put it in your path. Just cd to the directory containing the
AppServer before starting it, and it will find everything relative
to the curren
ocument larger than
a page. You click the mouse "paste" button, and it puts the text in the
wrong place. The cursor jumps to the beginning of the document, and you
try to cut & paste the page again or discard changes and start all over.
Repeat for each screenful of added text. No
does. If you use the right options (--opt) it will add code to
drop/recreate the tables with locking, so you can just feed the file back to
the mysql command to return to the previous state. It's very useful
during development. Postgres has a similar command.
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in for the '{}', whereas for '<>/' you just move
the pinky finger right from the 'm'.
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do some reformatting.
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Here are some preliminary ideas for a RSS kit:
http://webware.colorstudy.net/twiki/bin/view/Webware/AppIdeas
(scroll down to "RSS kit")
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On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 05:50:49AM -0500, Ian Bicking wrote:
> but embedding an RSS feed of slashdot
> seems more superfluous. Maybe if it's properly modular it won't matter.
A standalone RSS kit makes sense, however.
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without conversion and serve it as is without touching its internal
structure" alongside "convert the source document to an in-between
format so it's easy to reconvert into any output format."
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; should be a class attribute, rather than a method. Or another way of
> putting it is that you shouldn't have to instantiate the class to find out
> if it's useable as a servlet.
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= 'awake', 'respond', 'sleep'
for methMame in requiredMethods:
try:
meth = getattr(theClass, methName)
if type(meth) != types.MethodType:
raise RuntimeError("not a method...")
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:15:00AM -0500, Matt Feifarek wrote:
> Hello list.
>
> I was thinking that it would be nice of us to make a debian package (.deb)
> of webware.
SourceForge continueth to run slowly. Received 1 day + 15 hours after
it was sent.
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:05:36AM -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> In any case, the docs would usually go into
> /usr/share/doc/webware/ and the examples into
> /usr/share/doc/webware/examples . Python doesn't have a place for
> these.
This is something we should address if w
ts "have to escape $
and # and _ etc" and the dichotomy between its {\bf ...} vs
\code{...} distinctions, it allows us to be productive now,
and we can auto-convert it to an XML format sometime in the future.
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e systems do it. Maybe they
do install into site-packages/ now.
In any case, the docs would usually go into
/usr/share/doc/webware/ and the examples into
/usr/share/doc/webware/examples . Python doesn't have a place for
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On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:05:38PM -0800, Tavis Rudd wrote:
> > Any other drawbacks from anyone else?
>
> Mike, can you think of any after using it?
What's the question? I didn't get Jay's response to your
distutils pep talk, if he sent it to the list.
D
connote the project they come from. This strikes Tavis and me as
being bad neighborly. Fortunately the packages aren't *so* generic
as to be called "misc" or something.
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un uninstall. (And
why did he install another program into Webware's directory anyway?)
If a file or directory doesn't exist, ignore it--we don't care why it's
missing. If a directory can't be deleted coz it's not empty, report
that to the user and continue.
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> (Although distutils
> doesn't seem to have ai built-in uninstall support yet.)
Ahem, that's "a builit-in uninstall", not "AI built-in uninstall".
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e people to run
MakeAppWorkDir and keep their configuration files separate from
the installation. That would also make for a cleaner upgrade.
Or is it too draconian?
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trated with all
the details and overhead, didn't want to spend a couple days to read
all the manuals and figure it all out, and just made tarballs instead.
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On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 04:46:03PM -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> If Cheetah encounters '$sectionTwo'
> before '#def sectionTwo' it *should* raise a NameMapper.NotFound
> exception
Oops, that's not true. '#def' is processed at compile time,
whereas '
something is happening in the way the
parent and child templates are being processed under Webware.
Try replacing the '$section*' in _master.tmpl with #block's,
and using #def in _pageA.tmpl, and getting rid of the
'#def ... #include ... #end def' constructs, and see
iables (#set variables). However, .addToSearchList and
.prependToSearchList modify a shared list. I'm not sure how caching
or include would be affected.
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Ignore this part. I forgot to cut it out of the e-mail after I realized
why you need to backtrack.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:57:50AM -0800, Mike Orr wrote:
> Why do you have to backtrack multiple levels? As you go down the URL
> levels, you will either match a directory, a file or n
ermits that, and proceed acordingly. But it can be done.
A little more work, but because we're still importing a maximum of one servlet
per request, it doesn't seem like a serious performance hit. Just the
overhead of a few more directory searches.
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study.net/twiki/bin/view/Webware/WishList
Proposal
http://webware.colorstudy.net/twiki/bin/view/Webware/ExtraPathInfo
Problems with ExtraPathInfo being a site-wide setting
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ion of your httpd.conf that does
the webkit and the rewrites, or the entire virtual host, perhaps we
can figure something out.
I think you can also change the order of the LoadModule and/or
AddModule directives to control which order they are applied to
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te them. That would make the browser
forget the password and then you'd get the authentication dialog again.
But AFAIK no browser does this, and you may not have the source code to
the browser, or feel like modifying C code.
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database authentication and look up the
password in the database by the username?
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little quirks that come up just mean more things to debug.
And of course, some sites may prefer to standardize on one
authentication module for everything because it's required for one
of their applications. But they should have the choice of using
different existing modules according to the
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 05:10:07PM +0100, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote:
> Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> [...]
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*)
> > RewriteRule ^/(.*) /usr/lib/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/M/$1 \
> > [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1, t=applicati
sr/lib/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/M/$1 [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,
t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l]
(The second and third lines are really one long line.)
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on internally to some extent. I already mentioned to their
PR rep that supporting Webware could provide a market niche for
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ally) take
advantage of some of the more bleeding-edge Python features
(specifically iterators and properties)?
Thank you,
Mike Dean
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it can be modified in an external
editor; Zope has it.]
At some point we'd have to port the wiki pages from TWiki to MoinMoin,
which would lose some features, but it'd be in Python instead of Perl.
:)
As an aside, the Webware wiki is mentioned on this page.
http://www.zipcon.net/~
ght column ppl will
really only look at once, whereas the high-use links they'll probably
use every time they come to the wiki, so it makes sense to have them
show up in the first screenful.
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rors.
2) It cuts out the overhead of compiling and byte-compiling the servlet
at request time. Webware may be able to cache *.tmpl files using its
own caching mechanism, but that wouldn't affect the first time the
servlet is called.
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On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:45:05PM +0100, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a Webware servlet for Cheetah templates
> in Cheetah release 0.9.9? The documentation (for 0.9.9) says that one
> should wait for ... 0.9.9 :)
AFAIK, it has not been reimplemented yet.
g of field
values into a table row, not the relationship between that's formed when
joining two tables as I've always heard. I'm not sure I necessarily
believe it though.
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weighing the inconvenience.
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