Re: [Wesnoth-dev] build system evaluation (autotools/cmake/scons)

2009-02-23 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Sunday 22 February 2009, Sergey Popov wrote: На Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:52:55 +0100 Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.org wrote: Thanks for your contructive attitude. What is wrong with using a DSL for a very specific purpose ? I don't think that cmake's language is a DSL, at least compared

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] build system evaluation (autotools/cmake/scons)

2009-02-23 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday 23 February 2009, Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Sunday 22 February 2009, Sergey Popov wrote: На Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:52:55 +0100 Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.org wrote: Thanks for your contructive attitude. What is wrong with using a DSL for a very specific purpose ? I

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] build system evaluation (autotools/cmake/scons)

2009-02-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
Hi, On Sunday 22 February 2009, Sergey Popov wrote: На Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:28:03 +0100 Mark de Wever ko...@xs4all.nl записано: Cmake also supports to make project files for MSVC and CodeBlocks, it would be nice to get some feedback on how good these project files are. If we can make

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] build system evaluation (autotools/cmake/scons)

2009-02-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Sunday 22 February 2009, Mark de Wever wrote: ... * Cmake; mog implemented the cmake build system and went MIA afterwards, which means cmake has no real maintainer. It seems to work mostly but is in need of some love. At FOSDEM there were at least two Wesnoth developers who really

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] build system evaluation (autotools/cmake/scons)

2009-02-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Sunday 22 February 2009, Sergey Popov wrote: На Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:57:29 +0100 Alexander Neundorf neund...@kde.org wrote: There shouldn't be useless targets. Which ones do you consider useless ? none of which are Debug or Release, It is still based on Makefiles

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Wesnoth refactoring and future direction plan

2009-01-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 22 January 2009, Greg Copeland wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 22:04 +0100, Mark de Wever wrote: If you claim that Python/C API is faster as boost or SWIG, please post some benchmarks to backup those claims. I don't buy those claims without a benchmark. I can not speak to the

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] 1.7 design direction and the great Python shift

2009-01-02 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Friday 02 January 2009, Mark de Wever wrote: ... The main reason to hesitate before moving core code to Python is that it will require Wesnoth developers to know two languages before working on the code. I do not view this as a major problem, as Python is much easier to pick up than

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Profiling

2008-07-24 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 24 July 2008, Nicolas Grunbaum wrote: I have been profiling Wesnoth with Shark and Instruments on OS 10.5, the results which still need a bit of mining and statistical analysis show that Wesnoth spends a majority of its time ( ~ 85% ) in the graphics and audio routines, a large

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] State of the build system changeover

2008-03-26 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Most of you are aware that our autotools setup has reached a point of unmaintainability at which Ivanovic and I believe we need to change our build system to something (anything!) else. Additionally, we'd like to be able to use the same build

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Summary of FOSDEM 2008

2008-02-25 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday 25 February 2008, Nils Kneuper wrote: ... - new build system Post 1.4 esr and I will work on switching the build system from autotools to something better. At the moment it is not sure which build system will be used, the basic two alternatives are scons and cmake. There was a talk

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] FOSDEM planning

2008-02-21 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 21 February 2008, Nils Kneuper wrote: ... I do at least plan to release rc2 at the end of FOSDEM and to have a look at the two options I currently see as an autotools replacement. This looks like the perfect location for that. Both the scons and the cmake lead developers will be

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Choosing a new build system

2008-02-13 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Alexander Neundorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A bigger one is that I think the two-level design -- cmake making makefiles -- must inevitably have many of the same fundamental weaknesses as autotools, Imake, and other makefile-generator

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Choosing a new build system

2008-02-11 Thread Alexander Neundorf
Hi, On Monday 11 February 2008, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Alexander Neundorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would even prefer if you ask before you decide for one or the other :-) The blog you referenced consisted of mostly anchorless rants, which I already replied to each of his points. I'd happily

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Choosing a new build system

2008-02-10 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Friday 08 February 2008, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Alexander Neundorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I noticed that you are discussing using CMake for Wesnoth (which would be great), and since as far as I have seen you have open questions and concerns regarding CMake, I'd like to help with that. I'm

Re: [Wesnoth-dev] Choosing a new build system

2008-02-07 Thread Alexander Neundorf
Hi, I noticed that you are discussing using CMake for Wesnoth (which would be great), and since as far as I have seen you have open questions and concerns regarding CMake, I'd like to help with that. I'm maintaining the CMake based buildsystem of KDE4 since 2006 and since last year I am also