Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Mauro Tortonesi
On Sunday 04 November 2007 22:54:24 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The patch looks good, and

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread David Ginger
i totally agree with hrvoje here. also note that changing wget unique-name-finding algorithm can potentially break lots of wget-based scripts out there. i think we should leave these kind of changes for wget2 - or wget-on-steroids or however you want to call it ;-) So can I ask is a wget2

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
On Nov 29, 2007 6:20 PM, David Ginger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So can I ask is a wget2 actualy being developed ? Go ahead, but I'll answer that question before you do ;-) The answer is no - not at the moment. But we've been discussing it for several months. It will be a while before any code is

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Tony Godshall
... At the release of Wget 1.11, it is my intention to try to attract as much developer interest as possible. At the moment, and despite Wget's pervasive presence, it has virtually no user or developer community. Given the amount of work that needs to be done, this is not good. The

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Williams wrote: On Nov 29, 2007 6:20 PM, David Ginger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So can I ask is a wget2 actualy being developed ? Go ahead, but I'll answer that question before you do ;-) The answer is no - not at the moment. But we've

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Godshall wrote: ... At the release of Wget 1.11, it is my intention to try to attract as much developer interest as possible. At the moment, and despite Wget's pervasive presence, it has virtually no user or developer community. Given the

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah... of course they won't be able to edit the wiki that way. I doubt you'd get the slashdot effect from just the people who're interested in editing the wiki. You may get a handful of developers and a few thousand people who only want to read

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the trouble with that is that I'm running all of Wget's stuff (plus my own personal mail and whatnot) on a little VPS. I'm rather concerned that the traffic will kill me. I'm already worried about it potentially hitting SlashDot or Digg

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno, man, I think our current wget2 roadmap goals are already pretty wild-and-crazy. ;) I agree. I think we should create an announcement asking for developers to help and submit it to digg and slashdot. The new features may get some

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Williams wrote: On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno, man, I think our current wget2 roadmap goals are already pretty wild-and-crazy. ;) I agree. I think we should create an announcement asking for developers to help

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-29 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Williams wrote: On 11/29/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the trouble with that is that I'm running all of Wget's stuff (plus my own personal mail and whatnot) on a little VPS. I'm rather concerned that the traffic will kill me.

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-16 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Tony Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hrvoje Niksic wrote: And how is .tar.gz renamed? .tar-1.gz? Ouch. OK. I'm responding to the chain and not Hrvoje's expression of pain. :-) What if we changed the semantics of --no-clobber so the user could specify the behavior? I'm thinking it could

RE: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-16 Thread Tony Lewis
Hrvoje Niksic wrote: And how is .tar.gz renamed? .tar-1.gz? Ouch. OK. I'm responding to the chain and not Hrvoje's expression of pain. :-) What if we changed the semantics of --no-clobber so the user could specify the behavior? I'm thinking it could accept the following strings: - after:

RE: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-06 Thread Christopher G. Lewis
To: Wget Cc: Christian Roche Subject: Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-06 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Christopher G. Lewis wrote: Hmm - changing the rename schema would potentially create a HUGE issue with clobbering. For example, and quite hypothetical... Given a directory with the following: index.html index-1.html index.1.html

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-06 Thread Andreas Pettersson
Hrvoje Niksic wrote: It just occurred to me that this change breaks backward compatibility. It will break scripts that try to clean up after Wget or that in any way depend on the current naming scheme I'm also a bit hesitant about changing the way files get named. With a .1 at the absolute

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-06 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Andreas Pettersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And how is .tar.gz renamed? .tar-1.gz? Ouch.

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-05 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It just occurred to me that this change breaks backward compatibility. It will break scripts that try to clean up after Wget or that in any way depend on the current naming scheme. It may. I am not going to commit to never ever changing the current

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-05 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It just occurred to me that this change breaks backward compatibility. It will break scripts that try to clean up after Wget or that in any way depend on the current naming scheme. It

.1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The patch looks good, and will likely go in very soon. A couple of minor

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/4/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The patch looks good, and will likely go in very soon. That's something I

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Josh Williams wrote: On 11/4/07, Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The patch looks good, and will likely go in very soon. foo.html.n has the advantage

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The patch

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern foo-n.html rather than foo.html.n. The patch looks good, and will likely go

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Josh Williams
On 11/4/07, Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just occurred to me that this change breaks backward compatibility. It will break scripts that try to clean up after Wget or that in any way depend on the current naming scheme. You mean the scripts that fix the same problem this patch

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Roche has submitted a revised version of a patch to modify the unique-name-finding algorithm to generate names in the pattern

Re: .1, .2 before suffix rather than after

2007-11-04 Thread Steven M. Schweda
I don't care particularly how this stuff works, but if you'd like to do me a favor, please make sure, whatever the final scheme is, that it's easy to add the #ifdef for VMS to bypass the whole mess, because the file version numbers on VMS obviate it.