Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-20 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 12/20/10 5:16 PM, Alex Komoroske wrote: But I think overall the discussion about precisely what a tab means is not central to the core proposal. Is that reasonable? Yep. -Boris

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-20 Thread Alex Komoroske
Hi Bjartur, Thanks for your comments. My responses are inline. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On 12/20/10, Alex Komoroske wrote: > > Thanks for your comments. I've replied inline. > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius > > wrote: > > > >> On

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-20 Thread Alex Komoroske
Ah, yes, thank you Boris, I think I understand now. Note that the actual proposal doesn't depend on the existence of a UI construct called "tabs" that operate like they do on desktop browsers today. I think the better way to think about it is, if the content of the page is partially visible on *a

[whatwg] Application Cache for on-line sites

2010-12-20 Thread Michael Nordman
This type of request (see forwarded message below) to utilize the application cache for subresource loads into documents that are not stored in the cache has come up several times now. The current feature set is very focused on the "offline" use case. Is it worth making additions such that a docume

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-20 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 12/20/10, Alex Komoroske wrote: > Thanks for your comments. I've replied inline. > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius > wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:27:51 -, Alex Komoroske >> wrote: >> >>> Regarding the fact that background tabs aren't necessarily invisible: >>>

Re: [whatwg] Bluetooth devices

2010-12-20 Thread Stephen Bannasch
At 9:56 PM + 12/18/10, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: >On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:42:52 -, Diogo Resende >wrote: >> >>- Does the OS need to know how to fetch this information? >Yes, the purpose of an OS is to abstract and multiplex hardware. >Does a web app need to know how to fetch this informati

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-20 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 12/20/10 10:21 AM, Alex Komoroske wrote: I'm not sure that I understand the point of confusion. When I say 'tab', I mean the current UI construct implemented in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera, Internet Explorer, and others. I think the point of confusion is that you think this UI construct

Re: [whatwg] Bluetooth devices

2010-12-20 Thread Diogo Resende
Replied inline.. On Sat, 2010-12-18 at 21:56 +, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:42:52 -, Diogo Resende > wrote: > > > Let's think about an example, perhaps a bluetooth weather station. For > > the OS it's just another bluetooth device. What if a web app could have >

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a tab visibility API

2010-12-20 Thread Alex Komoroske
Hi Bjartur, Thanks for your comments. I've replied inline. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:27:51 -, Alex Komoroske > wrote: > >> Regarding the fact that background tabs aren't necessarily invisible: >> - >> >> On December 8, Boris Zb

Re: [whatwg] Onpopstate is Flawed

2010-12-20 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 08:42:09 +0100, Henry Chan wrote: *bump* This is really serious, it blocks a very good use of the API, and it's unreliable to use it if back and forward is clicekd before onload. This got fixed, no? http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5685&to=5686 -- Anne van