Re: [whatwg] How to handle multitrack media resources in HTML

2011-04-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: One particular issue that hasn't had much discussion here yet is the issue of how to deal with multitrack media resources or media resources that have associated synchronized audio and video resources. I'm concretely referring to such things as

Re: [whatwg] Media elements statistics

2011-04-08 Thread Jeroen Wijering
On Apr 7, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: I've also just added a section with the stats that the Adobe Flash player exposes. Great. Perhaps Silverlight stats might be of use too - though they're fairly similar:

[whatwg] PeerConnection constructor: Init string format

2011-04-08 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Adding this to the public archive: The current (April 8) version of section 9.4 says that the config string for a PeerConnection object is this: --- The allowed formats for this string are: TYPE 203.0.113.2:3478 Indicates a specific IP address and port for the server.

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread James Graham
On 04/07/2011 05:55 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Lachlan Huntlachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: 3. We'd like to get some feedback from web developers, and agreement from other browser vendors, about exactly which glyphs are most appropriate to use for these

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
James Graham wrote: On 04/07/2011 05:55 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Lachlan Huntlachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: 3. We'd like to get some feedback from web developers, and agreement from other browser vendors, about exactly which glyphs are most appropriate to

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-04-08 11:23, James Graham wrote: FWIW I don't think we need cross-browser agreement here. In particular I think browsers should be free to implement details using a platform-native disclose widget if they like. These are not all alike e.g. OSX uses something like ▸, Windows something

Re: [whatwg] Geolocation - Browser usability issues with regards to asking user permission

2011-04-08 Thread Rich Tibbett
Biju wrote: What I want from browser vendors is make navigator.geolocation.getCurrentPosition and navigator.geolocation.watchPosition ONLY callable from a CLICK event. I thought we all learned lesson from window.open popups window.open is still entirely underspecified in standards when it

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Lachlan Hunt lachlan.h...@lachy.id.au wrote: If we use 'list-style-type', it seems reasonable to at least agree on a common list-style-type value.  Existing list-style-type values in CSS do define applicable Unicode characters [1], which is why I suggested them.

Re: [whatwg] PeerConnection constructor: Init string format

2011-04-08 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Harald Alvestrand har...@alvestrand.nowrote: My alternate proposal: -- The initialization string looks like this: { “stun_service”: { “host”: “stun.example.com”, “service”:

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Regardless of whether or not we agree on a common glyph to use for this, we should at least agree on the applicable CSS styles used to achieve the rendering, which is essential so that authors have an easier time override them with their own styles. It’s far too

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Lachlan Hunt
On 2011-04-08 18:19, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: This isn't quite true. The three CSS2.1 bullet styles, for example, are all different on at least one browser. I've specced them specially in Lists such that there is a recommended glyph but browsers are free to use any graphic that's roughly similar.

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: details is definitely something we want to make fully author-stylable. I don’t. Who’s this ”we” you are talking about, and why do they want to make details author-stylable even before a single browser has _any_ support to the element, at the functional level? Why

Re: [whatwg] How to handle multitrack media resources in HTML

2011-04-08 Thread Jer Noble
On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: The distinction between a master media element and a master media controller is, in my mind, mostly a distinction without a difference. However, a welcome addition to the media controller would be convenience APIs for the above properties

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: details is definitely something we want to make fully author-stylable. I don’t. Who’s this ”we” you are talking about, and why do they want to make details author-stylable even before a single

Re: [whatwg] How to handle multitrack media resources in HTML

2011-04-08 Thread Eric Winkelman
On Friday, April 08, 2011, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011, Eric Winkelman wrote: MPEG transport streams, as used for commercial TV, will often contain multiple types of metadata: content advisories, ad insertion opportunities, interactive TV application triggers, etc. If we were

[whatwg] Accept full CSS colors in the legacy color parsing algorithm

2011-04-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
In the legacy color parsing algorithm http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#rules-for-parsing-a-legacy-color-value, steps 5 and 6 concern CSS color names - 'transparent' should raise an error, and color names should be respected. All other CSS color

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: details is definitely something we want to make fully author-stylable. I don’t. Who’s this ”we” you are talking about, and why do they want to make details

Re: [whatwg] Accept full CSS colors in the legacy color parsing algorithm

2011-04-08 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 4/8/11 1:54 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: In the legacy color parsing algorithm http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#rules-for-parsing-a-legacy-color-value, steps 5 and 6 concern CSS color names - 'transparent' should raise an error, and color

Re: [whatwg] Styling details

2011-04-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: However, the default visual behavior of details is suggested in the HTML spec. You misspelled ”the current HTML(5) draft/sketch”. And I would not take it as more than a suggestion in a work in

Re: [whatwg] Accept full CSS colors in the legacy color parsing algorithm

2011-04-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 4/8/11 1:54 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: In the legacy color parsing algorithm http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-microsyntaxes.html#rules-for-parsing-a-legacy-color-value, steps 5 and 6