Re: [whatwg] header for JSON-LD ???

2017-07-25 Thread Ian Hickson
fucking manners. > Disrespect of fellow members of the list is unacceptable. Michael has been banned from the list for two weeks. Please peruse our code of conduct if the reasoning behind this action is unclear to you: https://whatwg.org/code-of-conduct Thanks. -- -- Ian Hickson 😸

Re: [whatwg] Accessing local files with JavaScript portably and securely

2017-04-18 Thread Ian Hickson
seek to stifle debate or censor someone else from > having their say. > Indeed not! I should hope nobody would feel that way. The WHATWG is a venue that is open to anyone willing to take part in relevant technical debate. -- -- Ian Hickson 😸

Re: [whatwg] Accessing local files with JavaScript portably and securely

2017-04-18 Thread Ian Hickson
send an an e-mail to this list proposing a basic design. Cheers, -- Ian Hickson -- -- Ian Hickson 😸

[whatwg] window.opener security issues (Was: WhatWG is broken)

2016-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
ds to be disbanded and replaced by a working group that will put the > security of the users first. > There's already plenty too many working groups working on HTML as it is... Cheers, -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Intent to implement: Background Geolocation for Progressive Web-Apps

2016-11-30 Thread Ian Hickson
ers is the quality of arguments and data presented). I urge you to read the WHATWG FAQ before sending further e-mails to the list. Thanks. https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ If you wish to respond to this e-mail please do not cc the WHATWG list in your reply. Cheers, -- Ian Hickson On Tue, Nov 29,

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for showing thousand separator in form controls.

2015-10-15 Thread Ian Hickson
s about how things work here in our FAQ: https://whatwg.org/faq HTH. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] XML/HTML Entities draft

2015-10-02 Thread Ian Hickson
gt; are more easily tracked by other projects. (I know several browser > > and latex-to-xxx projects are using that in one way or another.) > > > > The sources are at > > > > https://github.com/w3c/xml-entities Thanks for the heads-up,

Re: [whatwg] W3C Timed Text Working Group proposal for HTMLCue

2015-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
all > >work. > > Are you commenting that it is not a bad proposal in principle, given > extra detail, or that it is not a proposal that can be assessed at all > with the current level of detail? More the latter. I do think the work involved wou

Re: [whatwg] W3C Timed Text Working Group proposal for HTMLCue

2015-09-10 Thread Ian Hickson
hat points to a resource that requires HTTP authentication? Is each cue a separate Document? What happens to media queries in a cue? These questions are but the tip of a very, very large iceberg. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.f

Re: [whatwg] deprecating

2015-09-04 Thread Ian Hickson
and generally anything that doesn't directly relate to technical changes to a WHATWG specification. If you have any questions about this please don't hesitate to e-mail me privately about them (you can even cc www-arch...@w3.org if you want a public record of the conversation).

Re: [whatwg] deprecating

2015-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
eature is likely to be removed. This is just a statement of fact, reflecting intents stated by browser vendors. It's not a value judgement and it's not a technical or normative change. If you would like to discuss a technical change to the WHATWG HTML spec, then that would definitely be someth

Re: [whatwg] deprecating

2015-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
x27;t be supported by legacy UAs or legacy servers), so it would be no different than introducing an entirely new feature that didn't suffer from all the other problems that suffers from. This is somewhat academic, though. When there are no browser vendors supporting a particular feature,

Re: [whatwg] deprecating

2015-09-03 Thread Ian Hickson
ple to follow such a pattern, but when they don't, we can't just ignore reality. I encourage you to read our FAQ. The WHATWG has a much more pragmatic approach than other standards organisations you may be more familiar with. https://whatwg.org/faq -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] deprecating

2015-09-01 Thread Ian Hickson
g exactly as one should expect. It's worth noting that is a pretty terrible API. I recommend approaching the groups writing new cryptography APIs, explaining your use cases, and making sure they are supported in up-and-coming, more widely supported, more secure, and more well-thought-out A

[whatwg] HTML spec now on GitHub

2015-08-27 Thread Ian Hickson
those of you filing bugs. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] EventSource and data URLs

2015-06-21 Thread Ian Hickson
ant here? It's definitely intentional that EventSource not introduce any new exceptions to the networking layer. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Script parsing mode within SVG sections in HTML documents

2015-06-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015, Niels Keurentjes wrote: > > I ran into a discussion on Stack Overflow in this topic: > http://stackoverflow.com/q/30952737/1729885, regarding embedding the > following code snippet in an HTML document: > > alert(1) > > The chara

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow disabling of default scroll restoration behavior

2015-04-21 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > I'd strongly recommend against adding new methods. It'll mean we now > > have two different ways to do the same thing, which means more bugs, > > which me

Re: [whatwg] MetaExtension and Dublin Core revision

2015-04-21 Thread Ian Hickson
nd should include brief parentheticals for any usage notes, linked to the relevant specification for more discussion -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are imposs

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: Allow disabling of default scroll restoration behavior

2015-04-09 Thread Ian Hickson
g seems reasonable again. Are there other vendors interested in implementing this? If not, I recommend that Chrome implement this as the fourth argument with a dictionary with a boolean that implies that the author will perform the scroll position restoration

Re: [whatwg] MetaExtension and Dublin Core revision

2015-04-09 Thread Ian Hickson
consistent manner should be specified in the relevant specification (this might require changes to that specification) - values that are widly used inconsistently should be obsoleted by the relevant specification and marked accordingly on the relevant wiki - the concept of namespaces fo

Re: [whatwg] MetaExtension and Dublin Core revision

2015-03-26 Thread Ian Hickson
vant spec, not the registry. > + Prefix structures, both in namespace definition rel="schema.DCTERMS/DC"> and in properties should > be capitalised both in existing properties and in those defined in this > message (I wrote them lowercase for the sake of uniformity).

Re: [whatwg] Obsolete Feature [hgroup]

2015-02-18 Thread Ian Hickson
he https://html5.validator.nu/ validator. Should I ignore the > error I receive? I recommend using the validator.nu service rather than the W3C one. They're basically the same but the validator.nu one is closer to the WHATWG spec's requirements than the W3C one. HTH, -- Ian Hickso

Re: [whatwg] BroadcastChannel in Firefox Nightly

2015-01-14 Thread Ian Hickson
#x27;ll see that avoiding abusing localStorage was in fact the original motivation for this API. :-) https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22628 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] relationship between labeled control and label for :active and :hover pseudos

2015-01-06 Thread Ian Hickson
tic, I question that judgement. > Since you raised specific concerns about performance, Microsoft, who > already implements this, went through their bug database to check: > “there is not a single bug filed against IE regarding performance issues > by tying the the label to t

Re: [whatwg] : Issue reported by the web developers

2014-11-26 Thread Ian Hickson
t here and how possible it is to evaneglise them. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] : Issue reported by the web developers

2014-11-25 Thread Ian Hickson
ople think they can put markup in the element (look at the Apple page for an example), which wouldn't work There may be other options that aren't immediately coming to mind. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+26

Re: [whatwg] URL interop status and reference implementation demos

2014-11-18 Thread Ian Hickson
other implementors into thinking it's special. If it's actually intended to be a true reference implementation, then that's interesting; is this intended to replace the spec in due course? Generally I would recommend only putting specs on *.spec.whatwg.org. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Modifying the URL inside beforeunload event

2014-11-14 Thread Ian Hickson
purely on the client side. Obviously that depends on how sophisticated the app is. If it's a game with crazy visuals, there's comparatively more client-side code. Similarly, if you have a rich-text editor with offline capabilities, there's obviously much more client-side c

Re: [whatwg] Modifying the URL inside beforeunload event

2014-11-14 Thread Ian Hickson
x27;s very lengthy and ugly so I'm more than happy > to entertain alternatives. Personally the way I build apps these days is to just serve static files over HTTP, and do all the dynamic stuff over WebSocket, which would sidestep all these issues. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Modifying the URL inside beforeunload event

2014-11-12 Thread Ian Hickson
people copy and paste URLs from the location bar while the page is up. You could replaceState() during page load, but I would generally much more recommend sessionStorage for this purpose. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg]

2014-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
> Non-conforming (does not match the "outer" production before "comment-open" / > after "comment-close" / or both): > > <script type="text/plain"><!-- a --> > > > <!-- a --> > > <!-- a --> >

Re: [whatwg] New feature: better integration with browser find interface

2014-10-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Peter Kasting wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > > > > - telling UA that it should retry the search because content has > > > been changed/rendered/modified > > > > > > The last is importa

Re: [whatwg] New feature: better integration with browser find interface

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Hickson
ant because for web application which dynamically > render the content, after search has already find matches on the page, > if content is changed, browsers do not retry the search. This is the > most evident with browsers which allow "highlight all" feature, like > Google Chr

Re: [whatwg] Shared storage

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Hickson
resource locally ("save", using ), then upload it to the new site ("open", using )? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Markup-related feedback

2014-10-27 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 2014-01-22 2:28, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > > > > > > Thank you for the clarifications. I may have been stuck to an idea > > > of a submittable element, possibly adopted

Re: [whatwg] Notifications: making requestPermission() return a promise

2014-10-01 Thread Ian Hickson
omises): https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25472#c18 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Content-Type Security Considerations

2014-09-26 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 13 May 2014, Eduardo Vela wrote: > > On Tue, 13 May 2014, Eduardo' Vela\" wrote: > > > > > > What about X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff? > > > > > > Could we formalize it and remove the X and disable sniffing all > > > together? > > > > Do you mean for manifests specifically, or more gene

[whatwg] Autofill-related feedback

2014-09-26 Thread Ian Hickson
d changes the number of > types of administrative divisions it has, I guess it's reasonable to > redefine "level4" to the former "level3", and add a new "level5" which > is the former "level4". Maybe. This could cause quite the mess. I guess we'll handle this in due course on a case-by-case basis. It's hard to see how we could predict all the various ways this might change. In the end (as part of the related bug) I did spec the four level values. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Move RequestAnimationFrame steps into HTML?

2014-09-17 Thread Ian Hickson
/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26839 This will actually help substantially with resolving this issue also: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26636 Do you have a log of the issues that are outstanding on this spec? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] Preloading and deferred loading of scripts and other resources

2014-09-08 Thread Ian Hickson
not sufficient for > the more general case of content-types not covered by dedicated > elements. needs="" is actually very little more than syntactic sugar over ES6 module loader primitives, assuming that we can get the ES6 module loader to be augmented to address the needs o

Re: [whatwg] Preloading and deferred loading of scripts and other resources

2014-09-08 Thread Ian Hickson
loadsettings="..." media="..."> > The combination of all of the above allows me to fetch any content-type, > specify custom priorities and headers (or use a default set via 'as'), > apply MQ's, etc. Given all that, assuming I can extract a Pr

Re: [whatwg] Removing ARIA mappings from the HTML standard in favor of a separate doc

2014-09-02 Thread Ian Hickson
think the author and UA requirements are tightly related, however (e.g. the ARIA spec term "strong semantics" implies both), so I don't think it makes sense to move one and not the other. I'm happy to work with anyone who is interested in doing this work if there is anythi

Re: [whatwg] Preloading and deferred loading of scripts and other resources

2014-09-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Yoav Weiss wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > [snip] > > > >load-settings=""A JSON-encoded dictionary to pass to the Request > >constructor. > > I'm not a big fan of JS

Re: [whatwg] Need clarification on menu builder algorithm for contextmenu attribute

2014-08-26 Thread Ian Hickson
). I've tweaked the wording a bit to try to make this clearer. In particular I've made the terminology less ambiguous. HTH, -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

[whatwg] Preloading and deferred loading of scripts and other resources

2014-08-22 Thread Ian Hickson
; [Use-case W:] some developers have even requested to be able to stop the > chain and prevent further executions if the script loads, but there's > some compile-time syntax error or run-time error that happens during the > execution. For them, it's not enough for B to simply f

Re: [whatwg] Memory management problem of video elements

2014-08-20 Thread Ian Hickson
> just lie about currentTime until playback continues, though. Note that setting currentTime is required to be precise, even if that means actually playing the content in silence for a while to get to the precise point. To seek fast, we have a separate fastSeek() method. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] resource hints and separating download from processing

2014-08-15 Thread Ian Hickson
one of that > is currently spec'ed, which is the gap I'm trying to fill. I totally agree that more detailed specs for rel=prerender, rel=preconnect, and rel=prefetch/preload/subresource would be useful. I may end up speccing the latter, but what I'm doing doesn&

Re: [whatwg] exposing dependencies + weights (aka, priorities) to web developers

2014-08-15 Thread Ian Hickson
e whether it's worth doing, and if so, whether this proposal does it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] resource hints and separating download from processing

2014-08-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Ilya Grigorik wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > > I hope to be able to post more concrete proposals soon, it's currently > > blocked on my understanding how I should be integrating HTML with ES6. > > Any bugs

Re: [whatwg] resource hints and separating download from processing

2014-08-11 Thread Ian Hickson
tely subsume the > > resource hints proposal. > > Hmm, not entirely.. I think. At a minimum, we still have preconnect and > speculative preload + prerender cases to consider. Do you mean the case of fetching a file before you've loaded the base HTML file, as in loading a la

Re: [whatwg] resource hints and separating download from processing

2014-08-11 Thread Ian Hickson
f this. You can see my current results here: http://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/6040024 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Accept header

2014-07-30 Thread Ian Hickson
s: These are not mutually exclusive. I would avoid adding the non-API sugar versions (content attributes, especially the dedicated ones) for anything that didn't have significant compelling use cases. Note that "Accept" _should_ probably be set by the UA for images

Re: [whatwg] Fetch Objects and scripts/stylesheets

2014-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
justify it, rather than require consumers to set these settings from script. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Fetch Objects and scripts/stylesheets

2014-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
here? Why are we trying to send custom headers on a ? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Fetch Objects and scripts/stylesheets

2014-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > >>>var mystyle = E('link', { rel: 

Re: [whatwg] Fetch Objects and scripts/stylesheets

2014-07-28 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > Why not: > > > >var mystyle = E('link', { rel: 'stylesheet', href: 'my.css', whenneeded: > > true }); > >documen

Re: [whatwg] Fetch Objects and scripts/stylesheets

2014-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
eholder. I don't expect to actually go with that. I just used it because it's what I had proposed the last time this came up.) That seems like it'd be no more complicated, but would involve less new API surface (not to mention fewer new ways to shoot yourself in the foot, e.g

Re: [whatwg] Fetch Objects and scripts/stylesheets

2014-07-22 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Ben Maurer wrote: > > (1) Allowing the user to specify parameters to Fetch. For example, a user > could say: > >

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.launchURL

2014-07-14 Thread Ian Hickson
ing a new API that literally doesn't do anything you can't already do is a pretty high cost, IMHO. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.launchURL

2014-07-14 Thread Ian Hickson
yone also has launchURL(). Why is it good that we have both? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.launchURL

2014-07-14 Thread Ian Hickson
in due course, but FWIW this appears to be more or less identical to a proposal from Microsoft about 18 months ago: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20799 It's still not really clear what difference this API would have to window.open(), t

Re: [whatwg] Stricter data URL policy

2014-07-10 Thread Ian Hickson
deprecated as I think we can get it. It's just special-cased logic in the navigation algorithm. Everywhere else, it just gets treated as an unknown URL scheme. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Hit regions: exception when the region has no pixels

2014-07-02 Thread Ian Hickson
easonable. Please assume that the spec is so adjusted. (I'm in the middle of updating my pipeline, so I can't easily make any spec edits right this second. Sorry about that, everyone. I promise I'll be getting back to my old productive rate of response as soon as the pipe

Re: [whatwg] `brand-color` meta extension

2014-06-26 Thread Ian Hickson
es (in particular, we wouldn't want IE to be forced to extend their interpretation of "msapplication-TileColor" and "msapplication-navbutton-color" to be redundant), but I do think it would make sense to encourage UAs to draw colours from whichever values are provided,

Re: [whatwg] Update and info!

2014-06-26 Thread Ian Hickson
7;s also a ton of GitHub repositories you can watch: > https://github.com/whatwg/ (some also have an associated Twitter > account). You can also subscribe to the spec itself to get update notifications; see the top left of the spec at: http://whatwg.org/

Re: [whatwg] brand-color meta extension

2014-06-26 Thread Ian Hickson
esn't take a CSS colour, it takes some specific keywords. However, "msapplication-navbutton-color", and, maybe better, "msapplication-TileColor", seem like pretty good fits to me. I don't really understand why one would avoid just reusing those, either instea

Re: [whatwg] brand-color meta extension

2014-06-26 Thread Ian Hickson
and "apple-mobile-web-app-status-bar-style". Why don't we just register and use those? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] SVG cloning elements from HTML5

2014-06-26 Thread Ian Hickson
the pages to be blank from the start tag to the end. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] BroadcastChannel memory leak

2014-06-06 Thread Ian Hickson
: > > > > Proposal: Add a |close| method to the BroadcastChannel interface > > similar to the |close| method on MessagePort. The |close| method > > would just neuter the instance of the channel and prevent it from > > receiving further messages. > >

Re: [whatwg] Missing HTMLSelectElement.autocomplete

2014-06-04 Thread Ian Hickson
have a method with the same name as a content attribute. > multiple ways to do things (vs getAttribute) Well sure, but isn't the IDL attribute a lot cleaner-looking? > longer specs/IDLs/compile times. Surely authors' needs outweigh these. -- I

Re: [whatwg] Missing HTMLSelectElement.autocomplete

2014-06-04 Thread Ian Hickson
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Dan Beam wrote: > > It'd be nice to avoid more attribute accessors (and encourage authors to > use getAttribute() instead), but if and have them we > should probably be consistent. Can you elaborate on the cost of attribute accessors? -- Ian Hicks

Re: [whatwg] Stricter data URL policy

2014-06-02 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > > At the moment data URLs inherit the origin of the context that fetches > them. To be precise, the origin of data: URLs themselves is the unique origin. It's the origin of resources that come from data: URLs that's differen

Re: [whatwg] I take back my request for this instead. SVG API

2014-05-26 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 24 May 2014, Emanuel Allen wrote: > > SVG API for the canvas element, simple call svg; var ctx = > canvas.getContext("svg"); How would this work? Can you elaborate? -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://l

Re: [whatwg] @autocomplete sections

2014-05-22 Thread Ian Hickson
e information, e.g. help text to show for certain fields, etc. Honestly, though, I would recommend that we wait to see how many forms use section-* at all before worrying about how rAc() works with them. On Wed, 14 May 2014, Ilya Sherman wrote: > > It likely makes sense to remove section-* tok

Re: [whatwg] type=month-day

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Hickson
.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25742 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] WebGL and ImageBitmaps

2014-05-16 Thread Ian Hickson
the Web as a whole, not just for canvas. So far, though, implementations have not been implementing the features that have been proposed, so...: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-color/#dropped -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] WebGL and ImageBitmaps

2014-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
loading to WebGL textures can be more efficient. I see that your comment was that the WebGL WG would like them specified. Does your saying that mean that Chrome wants to implement these also? Just having a working group want them specified doesn't help get us to multiple implementations...

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Content-Type Security Considerations

2014-05-13 Thread Ian Hickson
ay to prevent pages that aren't supposed to be manifests from being treated as manifests, I think it'd be better to have a CSP directive that disables manifests. Then you would apply it to any resource you know you don't want cached, don't want to be treated as being able t

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Content-Type Security Considerations

2014-05-13 Thread Ian Hickson
ing tracked by anyone? > > This would be in IETF I assume? I don't know how that process works, we > can follow up offline. We should make sure this is indeed followed up upon. > Before we add changes, let's figure out what's the best path forward. I > think th

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Content-Type Security Considerations

2014-05-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 13 May 2014, Michal Zalewski wrote: > > We probably can't support a well-defined algorithm for detecting > documents that have distinctive signatures while safely supporting > formats that don't have them (because there is always a possibility that > the non-structured format with user-

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Content-Type Security Considerations

2014-05-13 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 12 May 2014, Eduardo' Vela\" wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > > Note that there _is_ still a content type check with appcache, it's > > just done on the first few bytes of the file instead of on the > > m

Re: [whatwg] Move contentEditable/isContentEditable from HTMLElement to Element?

2014-05-13 Thread Ian Hickson
contenteditable="" to another spec, my suggestion would be that the place to move it to is the HTML Editing APIs spec, which could be renamed Web Editing APIs. There's precedent for having hooks for attributes like that, e.g. ARIA. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E

Re: [whatwg] AppCache Content-Type Security Considerations

2014-05-12 Thread Ian Hickson
y that a manifest can only do fallbacks for URLs that are within the subpath that the manifest finds itself in. That would be an interesting way of scoping manifests on shared domains. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] WebGL and ImageBitmaps

2014-05-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 9 May 2014, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Justin Novosad wrote: > > > > To help us iterate further, I've attempted to capture the essence of > > this thread on the whatwg wiki, using the problem solving template. I > > tried to capture the mai

[whatwg] ImageBitmap feature requests

2014-05-09 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Justin Novosad wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Ashley Gullen wrote: > > > > > > Some developers are starting to design large scale games using our > > > HTML5 game engine, and we&#

[whatwg] WebGL and ImageBitmaps

2014-05-09 Thread Ian Hickson
> nice to be able to avoid the JS red tape associated with chaining two > async events (image onload -> createImageBitmap). The limitation is mostly just for simplicity in defining and implementing the API. I agree that it could be changed. I've filed this bug to track this, i

[whatwg] APIs inside Workers

2014-05-09 Thread Ian Hickson
r it makes sense to specify in the IDL which kind the > interface is. This is how we ended up doing it. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.cores

2014-05-05 Thread Ian Hickson
ntation of Workers today, as bz pointed out earlier). Indeed, on a high-core machine as we should expect to start seeing widely in the coming years, it might make sense for the browser to randomly limit the number of cores on a per-origin/session basis, specifically to mitigate fi

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.cores

2014-05-05 Thread Ian Hickson
e with existing systems like Apple's GCD, strawman API proposals, and criticisms thereof. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.cores

2014-05-05 Thread Ian Hickson
re fingerprinting bits, I'm happy to try to spec that. Since this is not my area of expertise, I would welcome detailed descriptions of use cases, common pitfalls, experience with existing systems like Apple's GCD, to guide me in such work. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.cores

2014-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
hen you can fingerprint the user with impunity. The Web is better than that, or at least, we should make it better. > Are you saying it's better that people use an estimator poly-fill? No, I'm saying we should provide an API to address the underlying use case -- making optimal

Re: [whatwg] Proposal: navigator.cores

2014-05-04 Thread Ian Hickson
at have such a worker pool system also report the number of > hardware threads available. They don't have to, though. > In fact, the web was the only platform I could find that didn't make the > number of cores available to developers. The Web is unique in attempting to protec

Re: [whatwg] iframes, more sandbox

2014-05-01 Thread Ian Hickson
's no way to tell if the data is sensitive or not. Fundamentally, a page could encrypt the data in a way that makes it look like noise. But I don't really understand what XSS you're concerned about. If you're worried about the page accessing

Re: [whatwg] hidden attribute useless with display: flex?

2014-05-01 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 1 May 2014, David Bruant wrote: > Le 30/04/2014 23:32, Ian Hickson a écrit : > > > > What I'm trying to do is just that an element have display:flex > > > > and to hide it with the hidden attribute when I don't need the > > > > elemen

Re: [whatwg] Any plan for a TIMEOUT section on appcache manifests ?

2014-04-30 Thread Ian Hickson
BANDWIDTH EDGE: > onlineres.html fallbackres.html > ... > > Is it planned to have some similar mechanism ? Isn't this something browsers should just implement themselves? It's not clear to me how an author is supposed to know what timeout to give. -- Ian Hickson

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: fallback section taking over for 4xx and 5xx responses while online

2014-04-30 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, David Barrett-Kahn wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, David Barrett-Kahn wrote: > > > > > > We ran into this same problem on Google Docs offline. Our solution > > > was to add a proprie

Re: [whatwg] hidden attribute useless with display: flex?

2014-04-30 Thread Ian Hickson
erently? On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > > We could change the specification to use display-box instead. That might > work. Would that break sites that are intentionally replacing the styling for hidden="" from 'display:none' to 'opacity:

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on seamless iframe attribute

2014-04-30 Thread Ian Hickson
ame-origin-served blog comments, which isn't that fringe, to be fair. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'

Re: [whatwg] BroadcastChannel should support structured clones

2014-04-29 Thread Ian Hickson
ar. For people following on at home, there's also this bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25414 ...relating to the order of events in a broadcast channel, and this bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25413 ...wherein I'm about to change how channel n

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