Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-08 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:58 PM, John Harding wrote: > If there are multiple elements on the page (e.g. multiple inline video > players) that could go fullscreen, you still need some way to determine > which of them the user intended to make fullscreen. It's up to the script in the page to decid

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-08 Thread John Harding
If there are multiple elements on the page (e.g. multiple inline video players) that could go fullscreen, you still need some way to determine which of them the user intended to make fullscreen. My understanding is that was the point of designating a fullscreen element - it still requires that ele

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-08 Thread Robert O'Callahan
Fullscreen support for specific elements is more than just a convenience - it's fairly common to have multiple elements on a page that could be made to go fullscreen If the browser fullscreen API only supported making the entire page fullscreen, you could make an element fullscreen by making the p

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-08 Thread John Harding
Fullscreen support for specific elements is more than just a convenience - it's fairly common to have multiple elements on a page that could be made to go fullscreen, such as a page with multiple video players. For YouTube, we've chosen to put our embeddable player within an , but I imagine some o

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Mike Wilcox wrote: > Regarding fullscreen elements: I appreciate the initiative, but I wonder if > it's necessary to allow fullscreen at the element level? It's not necessary, but it's a very useful convenience. It also allows the UA to perform transition effects

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Mike Wilcox wrote: > Kudos to Mozilla (and Robert?). This is awesome. It does appear that you > plan to allow fullscreen without the use of a user-trigggered event such as > a button-click like Flash does. The proposed spec allows that, but I think browsers are l

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-06 Thread Mike Wilcox
On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > > It's probably worth having such an event, but there will be times when > neither fullscreendenied or fullscreenchanged are fired. I hope authors don't > write apps that break in such cases. We definitely need some sort of event to indica

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-06 Thread Mike Wilcox
Kudos to Mozilla (and Robert?). This is awesome. It does appear that you plan to allow fullscreen without the use of a user-trigggered event such as a button-click like Flash does. Not only would I like to launch my app in fullscreen to play a game, I may want to allow my advertisers to launch

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:17:54 +0200, Simon Fraser wrote: or have some constants for behavior: const unsigned short ALLOW_KEYBOARD_INPUT = 1; void requestFullScreen(unsigned short behavior) This would be extensible, and would allow us to permit other behaviors later. Can't we use a stri

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-05 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Simon Fraser wrote: > On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: > > > > * void cancelFullScreen() >> >> I think "exit" would be better than "cancel". >> > > The only problem with "exit" is that y

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-05 Thread Simon Fraser
On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: > This is feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal here: > > > > The user agent may transition a Document into or out

Re: [whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-05 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: > This is feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal here: > > > > The user agent may transition a Document into or out of the > > fullscreen state at any time, whether or not

[whatwg] Feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal

2010-08-05 Thread Simon Fraser
This is feedback on the Mozilla FullScreen API proposal here: > The user agent may transition a Document into or out of the > fullscreen state at any time, whether or not script has requested > it. User agents are encouraged to provide