Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-12-08 Thread Ian Hickson
(This e-mail only contains responses to the one brief part of the full- screen API feedback that apply to the spec(s) I'm working on; I believe Anne has stated an intent to specify an API for actually supporting fullscreen display of Web content and I have not responded to feedback that would

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-23 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: So... The trade-off is: 1) Only browsing contexts can go full-screen (since they have URLs that we could display). 2) Any element can go full-screen, but we'll need to add a nasty non-semantic attribute. Is

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: How is going fullscreen different from opening a popup window? That

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: Yeah, I agree that we'd need something like that in this model. It's unfortunate though. Won't folks package video widgets using iframes? I guess they'll need to include this silly attribute in their copy-and-paste this

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: This doesn't seem like a good model for full-screen.  I would

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: Oh, I think the iframe-at-a-time is an easier model to work with since the scripting context will get adopted into the full-screen view together with the elements. It requires the author to put each part of their page that

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: Oh, I think the iframe-at-a-time is an easier model to work with since the scripting context will get adopted into the full-screen view together

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: Oh, I think the iframe-at-a-time is an easier model to work with since

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-22 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-21 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Kit Grose k...@iqmultimedia.com.au wrote: On 21/08/2010, at 3:21 PM, Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: One comment: Rather than

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-21 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: How is going fullscreen different from opening a popup window? That depends on how the UA chooses to handle it. But this proposed fullscreen API is based on the idea that the fullscreen content takes over the toplevel

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-21 Thread Adam Barth
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: How is going fullscreen different from opening a popup window? That depends on how the UA chooses to handle it. But this proposed fullscreen API

[whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-20 Thread Ian Hickson
Controlling the rendering of content, e.g. as being full-screen or not, is a presentation-specific concern (e.g. it doesn't even apply to a speech- based browser, with no loss of features to the user), so the right place to specify it is something like CSSOM, not HTML. Thus, I haven't added

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Wilcox
On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: By CSSOM, I mean a separate specification, specifically one from the family of specifications that Anne is working on ...though my understanding is that Anne doesn't have the bandwidth to take this on right now (this may be less of a problem if

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-20 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: One comment: Rather than adding an allowfullscreen attribute on iframe, I would suggest just assuing that sandboxed content (i.e. content of iframes with the sandbox= attribute) can't go fullscreen. I can provide a sandbox flag

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-20 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Robert O'Callahan wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: One comment: Rather than adding an allowfullscreen attribute on iframe, I would suggest just assuing that sandboxed content (i.e. content of iframes with the sandbox=

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-20 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: One comment: Rather than adding an allowfullscreen attribute on iframe, I would suggest just assuing that sandboxed content (i.e. content of iframes

Re: [whatwg] Fullscreen feedback

2010-08-20 Thread Kit Grose
On 21/08/2010, at 3:21 PM, Adam Barth wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: One comment: Rather than adding an allowfullscreen attribute on iframe, I would suggest just assuing