Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-03-10 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Rowan Nairn wrote: In the spirit of paving some cow paths I'd like to put forward a proposal for a future version of HTML. The behavior I'm addressing is sites that replace links to external content with a framed version of that content, along with their own overlay

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-03-04 Thread Rowan Nairn
I'd like to see if I can move this forward a bit. Let's drop some of my original suggestions and break the solution into two separate simple features that we can discuss independently. Firstly, of the problems with overlays listed in my original email ([1]), I think the following are the most

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-10 Thread Scott González
The big disadvantage to this proposal is that it won't work until browsers implement the functionality, which would discourage anyone from using it since the fallback is that no overlay/infobar is presented. Rowan's implementation will allow the overlay/infobar to be displayed, but would keep the

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-10 Thread Rowan Nairn
Right. With this type of proposal we lose the degrade gracefully property which means implementors have to do twice the amount of work or more. I also think an attribute on hyperlinks is not the way to go (at least not the only way). Remember that the entity that is providing the infobar will

[whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Rowan Nairn
Hi, In the spirit of paving some cow paths I'd like to put forward a proposal for a future version of HTML. The behavior I'm addressing is sites that replace links to external content with a framed version of that content, along with their own overlay of information and links. I think with some

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/5/10 5:40 PM, Rowan Nairn wrote: - don't introduce new security issues like susceptibility to phishing attacks - The main URL bar should display the framed URL i.e. http://destination-site.com/ I'm having a really really really hard time reconciling these two, especially in the

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Rowan Nairn
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 2/5/10 5:40 PM, Rowan Nairn wrote: - don't introduce new security issues like susceptibility to phishing attacks - The main URL bar should display the framed URL i.e. http://destination-site.com/ I'm having a

Re: [whatwg] Making cross-domain overlays more user-friendly

2010-02-05 Thread Rowan Nairn
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 2/5/10 5:40 PM, Rowan Nairn wrote: - don't introduce new security issues like susceptibility to phishing attacks - The main URL bar should display the framed URL i.e. http://destination-site.com/ I'm having a