On 02/08/2011, at 11:50 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Cameron Heavon-Jones wrote:
The mapping of tel and email inputs to a contacts list is
functional, not systematic. Might this be extended for some other
inputs: date(*), url, search etc?
This functionality may be
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Mike Hanson wrote:
On Jul 26, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Simon Heckmann wrote:
I have read a lot in the last month about the future of html and web
applications and I am very impressed by the progress this makes.
However, I have
On 26/07/2011, at 10:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Robert O'Callahan posted a good response:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2011/06/permissions_for.html
In short, the better solution isn't to ask for permissions up-front, but
to ask for fewer permissions. The ideal solution is
On 27/07/2011, at 5:30 PM, Mike Hanson wrote:
The challenging use case, and one that we had trouble with when we prototyped
the Contacts API, is for ongoing or persistent access. The best approach we
have right now is to use explicit markup to sandbox the permissions grant
away from
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Simon Heckmann wrote:
I have read a lot in the last month about the future of html and web
applications and I am very impressed by the progress this makes.
However, I have come across some thing that annoys me: Permissions. I
know they are important and I know they
On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:41:24 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
svartma...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/5/11, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 00:12:06 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
svartma...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/3/11, Cameron Heavon-Jones cmhjo...@gmail.com wrote:
There
On 5/6/11, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:41:24 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
Of course, if the site requests coordinates, it's up to the user
whether they come from /dev/gps or /dev/tty (or /n/3D Globe).
Yeah, in principle. But given that most users aren't
On Fri, 06 May 2011 14:54:55 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
svartma...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/6/11, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 21:41:24 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
Of course, if the site requests coordinates, it's up to the user
whether they come from
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
There is a Unite application for Opera that does this -
http://unite.opera.com/application/701/
Wow! I'll install it on Sunday (my day ends in a few minutes)
thanks you just made my weekend :)
On Thu, 05 May 2011 00:12:06 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
svartma...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/3/11, Cameron Heavon-Jones cmhjo...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a number of resources which are thought of having an
'application' scope which may make sense to be collated into a
single manifest and
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
If I understand correctly, I disagree.
:)
I might trust a given entity
sometimes, or with some kinds of information, without wanting to simply say
sure whatever you want.
And I'm still haunted by web sites which
On 04/05/2011, at 11:12 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
The quantity of permission requests can be managed in an effective manner by
the agent allowing the user to store their preferences for the next command
or as a universal setting.
If you manage to inform users that they'd then be
On 05/05/2011, at 7:13 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 00:12:06 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 5/3/11, Cameron Heavon-Jones cmhjo...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a number of resources which are thought of having an
'application' scope
On 05/05/2011, at 8:30 AM, timeless wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com
wrote:
In practice, even given something as simple
as twitter's geolocation request I *sometimes* allow it to know where I am
and sometimes don't.
I'm hoping we'll
On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:39:53 +0200, Cameron Heavon-Jones
cmhjo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/05/2011, at 8:30 AM, timeless wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Charles McCathieNevile
cha...@opera.com wrote:
In practice, even given something as simple
as twitter's geolocation request I
On 5/5/11, Charles McCathieNevile cha...@opera.com wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 00:12:06 +0200, Bjartur Thorlacius
svartma...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/3/11, Cameron Heavon-Jones cmhjo...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a number of resources which are thought of having an
'application' scope which may
On 5/3/11, Cameron Heavon-Jones cmhjo...@gmail.com wrote:
I would agree a command-level authorization is a better default, if only
because it is necessary to have this level of granularity available.
Agreed.
The quantity of permission requests can be managed in an effective manner by
the
On 02/05/2011, at 10:47 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:52 -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
Asking for specific permissions in the context of a user action is
the
only model that makes sense to me. When applications ask for a big
bundle of
permissions in advance, how can I as
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:52 -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote:
Asking for specific permissions in the context of a user action is
the
only model that makes sense to me. When applications ask for a big
bundle of
permissions in advance, how can I as a user know what to do? I'm
sure to get
Hello everyone,
After reading all your comments I partly re-tought some of my ideas. First of
all it might not be the best idea to create a full application descriptor if it
would only be used to specify permissions. Additionally, I can see why people
do not want to be asked for all
Hi Simon,
Just to be certain, I'd like to ask if You are targeting desktop browser
in mobile devices, such as iPad and iPhones, as well, or is Your proposal
focused on PC/laptop devices?
Kind Regards
Göran
On 2011-05-01 16.49, Simon Heckmann si...@simonheckmann.de wrote:
Hello everyone,
Am 30.04.2011 um 01:41 schrieb Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Simon Heckmann si...@simonheckmann.dewrote:
Some challenges include:
* how to justify the request to the user being asked to grant the
privileges
starting with a text string and a link to
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
This is why--in general--I like the model so far: the user is asked for
permission in response to actually doing something that uses a feature. In
the notepad app, you're asked for permission to access the internet when
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Simon Heckmann si...@simonheckmann.dewrote:
I agree: That is why the example you quote from my previous mail went on
like this:
As the users continue to use the page, the web site could check the status
of the permission using javascript and remind the user to
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote:
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org
wrote:
The application could have a settings page with a checkbox Enable
desktop
notifications. When you click on that box, the browser shows its
Hello everyone,
I have read a lot in the last month about the future of html and web
applications and I am very impressed by the progress this makes. However, I
have come across some thing that annoys me: Permissions. I know they are
important and I know they are needed but currently I find
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Simon Heckmann si...@simonheckmann.de wrote:
I have written a short document covering my proposal:
www.simonheckmann.de/download/Proposal.pdf (3 pages, ~200KB)
I can't open this PDF in Preview.
--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Fixed!
Am 29.04.2011 um 10:52 schrieb Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Simon Heckmann si...@simonheckmann.de
wrote:
I have written a short document covering my proposal:
www.simonheckmann.de/download/Proposal.pdf (3 pages, ~200KB)
I can't open this PDF in Preview.
Hello again,
As requested I updated the proposal to contain screenshots from English browser
versions now. You can always find the latest version on
http://www.simonheckmann.de/download/Proposal.pdf. Additionally, I created an
HTML version of the file which might come in handy for some
You may also want to look at the ideas being floated by Mozilla and
others for installed web apps to request extra privileges. This is
expected to lead to a new W3C Working Group within a few months from
now, and I am hoping to see progress on being able to run the browser in
a locked down
Am 29.04.2011 um 16:47 schrieb Dave Raggett:
You may also want to look at the ideas being floated by Mozilla and others
for installed web apps to request extra privileges. This is expected to lead
to a new W3C Working Group within a few months from now, and I am hoping to
see progress on
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Simon Heckmann si...@simonheckmann.dewrote:
Some challenges include:
* how to justify the request to the user being asked to grant the
privileges
starting with a text string and a link to more information
Well, this is what I thought of: The users
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