Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-09 Thread Remco Bos
I thought about it some more, and now I think hibernate conversations are not the same as SEAM conversations... But I should try it out someday before posting more blurred thoughts. n8han wrote: Remco Bos wrote: I first thought the conversations / workspace concepts could be usefull, and

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-09 Thread Al Maw
Paolo Di Tommaso wrote: I'm not absolutely specking about a core implementation. This should regards a Seam or just JBPM integration. JBPM provides a very nice process flow designer. I think would be possible to have a process flow that defines the Wicket page and the inner model

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-09 Thread Johan Compagner
Using the designer the user could draw visually the flow between pages .. but this is what Seam do with page flow. This strikes me as doing something shiny just because you can, rather than because it would be useful. The reason you need this kind of stuff in Seam is presumably that you end

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I think the BPM feature would be a nice addition. I'm curious to learn what you would think that should look like. I've heard of a couple of projects that used/ integrated Wicket + jBPM (likely the default of SEAM) but everyone might have different ideas on it. How would you want to use

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Remco Bos
I have never used SEAM myself and haven't looked into it in detail. I first thought the conversations / workspace concepts could be usefull, and that SEAM could offer a better (or different) solution to the OpenSessionInView pattern to manage Hibernate sessions over requests. But maybe seam

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Paolo Di Tommaso
I think it depends how Seam will be really decoupled from JSF. I think it would be a nice option to Seam users to use Wicket as presentation layer instead of JSF, but if so the integration should be a Seam developers matter .. What would be nice to have in Wicket from an integration with Seam

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Johan Compagner
pageflow? like defining the next page in xml file? and then instead of setResponsePage(new MyNextPage()); i get setResponsePage(mynextpageasastring) if you want something like that then you should really develop then on top if wicket yourself. because that won't make it into core. johan On

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Paolo Di Tommaso
I'm not absolutely specking about a core implementation. This should regards a Seam or just JBPM integration. JBPM provides a very nice process flow designer. I think would be possible to have a process flow that defines the Wicket page and the inner model binding-persistence. Using the

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Eelco Hillenius
This will be labeled experimental in Databinder 1.1 probably, but it worked very smoothly in the example I cooked up some time ago and have let fall off the web (it will be back though; it's replacing the regular phone directory app). It's interesting stuff, anyway. Keep us informed :) Eelco

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 7/6/07, Nathan Hamblen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Wicket community is (for now) oriented around IDetachable so it's easier going that way. And I don't think detaching is a bad way to work--I use it for everything. can you also not use idetachable for long conversations? as far as i

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-06 Thread Nathan Hamblen
Igor Vaynberg wrote: now the instance of this model defines the conversation scope, pass it around between pages that need to use the same conversation. or is there more to it then that? I'm not sure if that's an option I tried and rejected; it was a half year ago. Keeping the sessions in

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-01 Thread Erik Dreyer
I think the BPM feature would be a nice addition. I'm currently also working with a Tapestry 3 project that integrated with Spring WebFlow. The integration is a bit hairy, but having the state machine for flow management was a big win. The cost is that virtually any link that moves from one

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-07-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Here's my 2c: I think the BPM feature would be a nice addition. I'm curious to learn what you would think that should look like. I've heard of a couple of projects that used/ integrated Wicket + jBPM (likely the default of SEAM) but everyone might have different ideas on it. How would you want

[Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-06-30 Thread Remco Bos
On tss there is a discussion about Seam2 integration with Wicket, I mean Apache Wicket! I'm quoting Gavin King: `By the way, it's now possible (easy, in fact) to build Wicket integration for Seam (...) I imagine it would be interesting to the Wicket community to have Seam's contextual component

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-06-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I'm quoting Gavin King: `By the way, it's now possible (easy, in fact) to build Wicket integration for Seam (...) I imagine it would be interesting to the Wicket community to have Seam's contextual component model, conversations, BPM integration, persistence context management, EJB3

Re: [Wicket-user] Seam2 and Wicket

2007-06-30 Thread Eelco Hillenius
So... who's gonna pick it up and start a wicket-stuff project for this? :) Maybe a good start would be to define the case for it. Having an integrated stack can be valueable, and this is where I can imagine Seam integration being really helpful. Would Wicket + Seam be enough to provide a whole