Re: [Wiki-research-l] Has the recent increase in English wikipedia's core community gone beyond a statistical blip?

2015-08-17 Thread Kerry Raymond
I asked her and yes the VE has made a big difference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Megalibrarygirl#Using_the_Visual_Editor (for what I said) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kerry_Raymond#Visual_Editor (for her reply) So, one success story! Kerry From: Kerry Raym

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Visual Editor experiment might have a problem ...

2015-08-17 Thread Kerry Raymond
Thanks, Nick! I will pass on the news! Kerry From: wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nick Wilson (Quiddity) Sent: Tuesday, 18 August 2015 8:47 AM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: Re:

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Has the recent increase in English wikipedia's core community gone beyond a statistical blip?

2015-08-17 Thread Kerry Raymond
Woo hoo! I’m #9 in the table! But seriously that’s probably less than 10% of my edits. For that same group, what percentage of their edits does the VE represent? I notice that #1 on the list User:Megalibrarygirl appears to be using VE almost exclusively at the present, but started out on the sou

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Visual Editor experiment might have a problem ...

2015-08-17 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Hi Kerry, IIUC, the original bug was https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109113 ("Can't successfully complete a second CAPTCHA in VisualEditor's save dialog") which started last Thursday, and was fixed this morning (and the fix should now already be deployed to the production wikis). It was only an

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Has the recent increase in English wikipedia's core community gone beyond a statistical blip?

2015-08-17 Thread Jonathan Morgan
It looks like about 10% of highly active Enwiki editors have used VE in the past month (across all namespaces): http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/4795 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:35 AM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > On a very non-scientific measure of how few editors curre

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Visual Editor experiment might have a problem ...

2015-08-17 Thread Sam Katz
No, you don't need CAPTCHA. You can use Honeypot. I think that would fix it. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > No, I'm not aware of any ongoing CAPTCHA work. There was a long thread on > wikitech-l starting last December ("Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly") that > resulted

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Has the recent increase in English wikipedia's core community gone beyond a statistical blip?

2015-08-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
On a very non-scientific measure of how few editors currently use V/E, I took some snapshots of the most recent 500 mainspace edits yesterday and was getting circa 1% tagged as visual editor, I've just run two sampl

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Has the recent increase in English wikipedia's core community gone beyond a statistical blip?

2015-08-17 Thread Jonathan Morgan
There are gobs and gobs* of people using VE. Many of them are experienced editors. I'm also interested in looking at VE adoption over time (especially by veteran editors). I'll sniff around and let y'all know if I find anything. No idea what might be causing the boost in active editor numbers. Bu

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Visual Editor experiment might have a problem ...

2015-08-17 Thread Jonathan Morgan
No, I'm not aware of any ongoing CAPTCHA work. There was a long thread on wikitech-l starting last December ("Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly") that resulted in some Phabricator tasks and a wikipage. But I don't know of any active development plans. By the way: Aaron's in transition (of the timezon