Re: [Wiki-research-l] What instructors think about teaching with Wikipedia AFTER having tried it?

2019-02-10 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Different people have different favoured learning styles. Some will copy others, some will ask others, and some actually go and read the instructions. Presumably some pay attention to lectures. In order to make Wikipedia open to all goodfaith editors it is helpful to support all learning

Re: [Wiki-research-l] User type context sensitivity to introdcution section.

2019-02-09 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Dear Aaron, The policy is already that the introduction should be suitable for a lay reader, but you are correct in that many articles don’t follow the manual of style as they lack introductions that are in clear, jargon free English. What would be useful from the research community is some

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Readers of Wikipedia

2018-12-17 Thread Jonathan Cardy
I am more active in categorisation on Commons than on Wikipedia, and there is a difference there as images in a very fine grained category may be the specific images that one sees if they click on the commons category link in a Wikipedia article. But on both I see allocating more specific

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

2018-09-30 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Thanks for the link, that was an interesting piece of research. I’m glad, though not surprised to see that among the regulars women are more likely to become admins than men. I would like to count that as evidence that the core community is not consciously sexist, though it may also be proof of

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

2018-09-19 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Thanks Pine, In case I didn’t make it clear, I am very much of the camp that IP editing is our lifeline, the way we recruit new members. If someone isn’t happy with Citizendium et al as tests of that proposition then feel free to propose tests. I am open to being proved wrong if someone

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published!

2018-09-19 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Vandalism used to be dealt with entirely manually, then it became semi automated with tools like huggle, nowadays much of it is rejected by the edit filters without the vandals managing to save an edit. So while it is still a problem, it is much less of a problem than it used to be. Far less

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Country (culture...) as a factor in contributing to collective intelligence projects

2018-07-25 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Hi, the second most obvious factor is going to be the availability of internet access, but also the type of internet access, and how long people have had internet access. The unproven assumption is that Wikipedia is written by people with internet experience and leisure time access to the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Fwd: [Analytics] Wikipedia aggregate clickstream data released

2018-01-20 Thread Jonathan Cardy
I don't see a privacy issue in creating a listing of common/frequent search terms. Obviously we don't need the data on who is making these searches, nor do we need the "long tail" of things only searched for by a small number of people. Aside from being clutter some of those search terms could

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Announcement] Voice and exit in a voluntary work environment

2017-07-27 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Pine, NEWT is an acronym that has already been used on Wikipedia, and judging from multiple references in this week's RFB, while that project was suspended several years ago the acronym is not forgotten. Jargon is confusing and a barrier to onboarding newbies at the best of times, but jargon

Re: [Wiki-research-l] [Analytics] Wikipedia Detox: Scaling up our understanding of harassment on Wikipedia

2017-06-24 Thread Jonathan Cardy
I would be interested to see how much of the offence and how many of the attacks are in Wikipedias known and usually obvious stress areas. Wikipedia tries to neutrally cover every topic that would be considered controversial in real life, and it also brings together people from diverse parts

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research about WikiProject Recommendation

2017-06-20 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Hi Bowen, If you are going to promote wikiprojects by recommendation then you need to test different styles of recommendation. Taking what may still be the two biggest wikiprojects, MILHIST and professional wrestling, what worked as an invitation for either might be quite different than what

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Research into Requests for Comments and the closing process

2017-05-31 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Dear Amy, That's an interesting topic, for your database you might want to just filter your dataset for some outliers that start and close on the first of April broadly construed (it is more than forty hours from when April Fools day starts in New Zealand to when it ends in California).

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Project exploring automated classification of article importance

2017-04-26 Thread Jonathan Cardy
I like to think that in time importance will win out over popularity. If Wikipedia still exists in fifty of five hundred years time and we are still using pasteurisation and indeed still eating hydrocarbon based foods, then I suspect the pop group you mention will be less frequently read about

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Editors: research on transitions, learning over time, leaving

2017-03-23 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Some of these things are more difficult to test than others, and indeed some are easier to resolve than others. I'm pretty sure that we lose a lot of new editors due to edit conflicts. I suspect we can define the people who become active editors as being the people who learn how to resolve edit

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Community health statistics of Wikiprojects

2016-01-07 Thread Jonathan Cardy
I'm not convinced that the first three of those tell you much about the health of a wikiproject. For example when I first reviewed the word staring I replaced most of them in Bollywood related articles with "starring", or I felt jaundiced "appearing". That would have boosted the first two