Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-12 Thread Flöck , Fabian
On 12.12.2014, at 06:07, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.commailto:jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the evidence that a greater proportion of reverts is associated with increased hostility instead of higher article quality standards? good point, one could also blame it on the postulated no easy

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Thanks for posting this thoughtful contribution! On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: FYI, I'm wondering if anyone has compared Wikipedia's hyper growth until 2007 and subsequent slower rate of production to the phenomenon of music CD sales in the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-12 Thread Anders Wennersten
I believe you are on something that would be very worthwhile to look further into I often think of three phases and likens it to shooting at a wall with a paintball gun -first you get enormous result and really see effect but the wall is uneven painted, but to fill in the gaps in not as fun

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-12 Thread Jane Darnell
Anders, I have also thought about that aspect and that is why I contribute to Mix-n-Match. We have at our disposal lots of finite datasets that were used to populate Wikipedia with in the early days. Most notable on the English Wikipedia is the out-of-copyright versions of the Encyclopedia

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-12 Thread Krystle
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: That said, I still feel the Facebook/Twitter ate my community angle merits more analysis. The fact that all the major language Wikipedia editions dropped in that same 2007 time frame, as well as WikiHow, is still

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-12 Thread Andrew Lih
I wish we had the slides for this, but Jack Herrick of WikiHow presented at Wikimania 2012 on the features put in to promote more community growth. There is video, however! And the exact time code is here: http://youtu.be/qI07vokWXBY?t=53m28s Quick transcription of that section of Jack

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
*We don’t want our best contributors feeling like the most important contribution they can make is to find stuff to get rid of - and more importantly, we want to avoid deterring people from joining the community and participating by being over-protective of what we want the site to look like.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-11 Thread Toby Negrin
Thanks indeed Nemo -- Anybody have any contacts there we could talk to? -Toby On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan Morgan jmor...@wikimedia.org wrote: *We don’t want our best contributors feeling like the most important contribution they can make is to find stuff to get rid of - and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-11 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:15 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: I continue to maintain that editor attrition is due to the natural transition from writing and completing new articles to maintaining old articles, and have seen nothing to convince me otherwise or of the validity of any

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-11 Thread Aaron Halfaker
James, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:The_Rise_and_Decline It seems clear that hostility has increased. Look at this graph specifically: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Desirable_newcomer_reverts_over_time.png -Aaron On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM, James Salsman

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-11 Thread mjn
Jonathan Morgan jmor...@wikimedia.org writes: My pet example, taken from an internet comment thread a couple years ago, and still true today: there's a Wikipedia article for every Linux distribution, but not a single Korean Supreme Court Justice has an article. Well, the Chief Justice does

Re: [Wiki-research-l] StackExchange editor decline (serverfault)

2014-12-11 Thread James Salsman
Jonathan Morgan wrote: ... not a single Korean Supreme Court Justice has an article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Sung-tae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_In-bok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Sang-hoon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Shin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_So-young