Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-30 Thread Joe Corneli
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Caroline Sinders wrote: > What I am doing *right now* at the Wikimedia Foundation is the > fantastically weird but unsexy of job of designing tools and UI to mitigate > online harassment while studying on wiki-harassment. It's not just

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-28 Thread Caroline Sinders
Hi all! Sorry for the delay- I had a super jam packed weekend and now upcoming week. A few points- thank you for the feedback! In general, I love feedback and criticism and I definitely got it :) Two, didn't realize this was a *wiki only* related research channel, so I'll try to bear that in

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-28 Thread Aaron Halfaker
OK ok. There's some hyperbole in this article and we are the type of people bent on citations and support. This isn't a research publication and Caroline admits in the beginning that she's going to get into a bit of a lecturing tone. But honestly I liked the article. It makes a good point and

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-28 Thread Robert West
Hi Caroline, The premise of this article seems to be that everyone needs to solve either the immediate or the distant problems. No one (and certainly not Elon Musk) would argue that there are no immediate problems with AI, but why should that keep us from thinking ahead? In a company, too, you

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-27 Thread James Salsman
>... what does this post have to do with wikis? FRSbot is a very prominent bot on Wikipedia crucial to obtaining neutral feedback for less-prominent RFCs, but it doesn't work the way people think it does, or the way it's authors have implied it does, or the way it should if it was going to be

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-26 Thread James Salsman
Dr. Heather Ford wrote: >... You may want to read Angele Christin's paper that just came > out in Big Data and Society that complicates the notion of judges > accepting algorithmic reasoning wholesale in making decisions. > > http://journals.sagepub.com/eprint/SPgDYyisV8mAJn4fm7Xi/full I am in

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-26 Thread Joe Corneli
On Sat, Aug 26 2017, Leila Zia wrote: > ** I personally would skip the whole conversation style in this kind > of article. In some of your audience, including me, it creates a first > reaction of "yes, we taught him a lesson." There's no accounting for taste, but I found the style offputting.

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-25 Thread Leila Zia
[The views below are my views and not necessarily the views of my employer, the Wikimedia Foundation.] Hi Caroline, Here are a few feedback points on my end: * I'm not sure what the ultimate goal of the piece is: to raise awareness about the issues around machine learning and artificial

Re: [Wiki-research-l] feedback appreciated

2017-08-25 Thread Heather Ford
This is excellent, Caroline. What a powerful piece. You may want to read Angele Christin's paper that just came out in Big Data and Society that complicates the notion of judges accepting algorithmic reasoning wholesale in making decisions.