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--- Comment #24 from badon 2012-03-13 03:10:53 UTC ---
I suppose it's irrelevant whether it gets stored or not. It determines whether
other data is stored or not.
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--- Comment #23 from badon 2012-03-13 03:09:12 UTC ---
But, you understand that KIND of information could be stored, as in the
examples I've mentioned, right?
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--- Comment #22 from Yaron Koren 2012-03-13 02:17:47 UTC ---
Of course, but that information isn't stored.
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--- Comment #21 from badon 2012-03-13 02:16:43 UTC ---
I understood that. That type of information is probably more the rule, rather
than the exception. The only variance is in the length of time the information
remains accurate. Sometimes it's
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--- Comment #20 from Yaron Koren 2012-03-13 01:54:59 UTC ---
I of course was talking about information that's only accurate at the moment of
saving.
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--- Comment #19 from badon 2012-03-13 01:45:17 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> Well, the fact that anyone, not just an administrator, could create large sets
> of pages using Special:RunQuery is one of the reasons why I think it's a bad
> i
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--- Comment #18 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-28 19:47:16 UTC ---
Well, thanks for clarifying that some people might want to store the current
weather - my point was that you wouldn't want to do it in a wiki. Anyway, if
you created a small example w
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--- Comment #17 from badon 2012-02-25 02:22:35 UTC ---
My examples are pretty varied, there's no need to fixate on one detail about
the weather. But, if you want an example of why someone would want to store
weather data, just look at amateur r
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--- Comment #16 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-24 13:57:17 UTC ---
Well, the fact that anyone, not just an administrator, could create large sets
of pages using Special:RunQuery is one of the reasons why I think it's a bad
idea. I still think it woul
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--- Comment #15 from badon 2012-02-23 23:53:11 UTC ---
If any decisions need to be made about the data to be entered, then it needs to
be done dynamically, in response to user input. When that process is complete,
then the data may be entered a
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--- Comment #14 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-20 22:12:17 UTC ---
Maybe it would help if you gave a useful example. The one example I can see, of
people assembling a list of serial numbers that should have their own page, can
just be solved with a b
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--- Comment #13 from badon 2012-02-19 20:01:55 UTC ---
No, that isn't right. Special:RunQuery and Data Transfer are not equivalent.
Here is a simpler breakdown:
* Special:RunQuery can be safely used by anyoneData Transfer can't.
*
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--- Comment #12 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-19 17:18:43 UTC ---
I still don't understand - if you want "fully-automated" page creation or
editing, as you put it, you can just use Data Transfer.
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--- Comment #11 from badon 2012-02-17 20:32:54 UTC ---
"#autoedit" is a bit of a misnomer. It is actually for semi-automated editing,
since it requires the user to click a link for each action performed. So far
that has worked adequately in som
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--- Comment #10 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-17 16:15:35 UTC ---
Hi, that's nice to hear, though I still don't understand what you're talking
about. As you note, you can also use Special:RunQuery to find pages, and to
create them via #autoedit. So
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--- Comment #9 from badon 2012-02-17 06:02:50 UTC ---
No, because the list of serial numbers is only a list of serial numbers. It
doesn't tell us anything about whether they have already been entered, nor if
the entered data is correct.
With
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--- Comment #8 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-17 02:12:55 UTC ---
If you already have the list of serial numbers, can't you just use Data
Transfer?
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--- Comment #7 from badon 2012-02-17 01:31:17 UTC ---
It would be used in cases for large quantities of data entry where most or all
of the data is identical. Here's an example (login with Demo/test):
http://www.coincompendium.com/w/index.php/
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--- Comment #6 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-17 00:39:43 UTC ---
What's a case where (a) you don't know in advance what pages are needed, and
(b) the standard "Creates pages with form" approach won't work?
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--- Comment #5 from badon 2012-02-17 00:28:53 UTC ---
I see. Clearly, then, Data Transfer is meant to be used rarely or in limited
circumstances, and that use does not overlap at all with the use of
Special:RunQuery. Special:RunQuery can be use
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--- Comment #4 from Yaron Koren 2012-02-16 23:21:25 UTC ---
Data Transfer, by default, closes off importing to just administrators, and you
know in advance exactly which pages are getting created.
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--- Comment #3 from badon 2012-02-16 19:59:03 UTC ---
While with Special:RunQuery, I can control how the data is entered, but with
the Data Transfer extension, it appears that it is already entirely automated,
with no way to control any automat
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--- Comment #1 from badon 2012-02-02 20:54:18 UTC ---
I think like a template programmer.
A better way to handle security is to set permissions for users and groups in
LocalSettings.php. That's probably the best place to configure whether
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