Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Pierpaolo Bernardi
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > Dear Pierpaolo, > > This thread was only about Julian and Gregorian calendar dates. If and how > other calendar models should be supported in some future is another > (potentially big) discussion. As you said, there are many issues there. >

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 01.07.2015 16:00, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: Dear Pierpaolo, This thread was only about Julian and Gregorian calendar dates. If and how other calendar models should be supported in some future is another (potentially big) discussion. As

Re: [Wikidata] [libraries] How can Wikidata get over 30, 000, 000 facts added a year ?

2015-07-01 Thread Luca Martinelli
Il 30/giu/2015 19:54, "Andrea Zanni" ha scritto: > > Hello everyone. > > For Italian libraries, you can find a good csv here: > http://opendata.anagrafe.iccu.sbn.it/territorio.zip > > Cristian Consonni also had a project of importing all of them on > OpenStreetMap: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.or

[Wikidata] Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

2015-07-01 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, it's first of July and I would like to introduce you a quarterly goal that the Engineering Community team has committed to: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950 We are missing a community framework allowing W

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
I would find this discussion easier to follow if the Wikidata identifiers for the various classes and properties were mentioned, and there were pointers to relevant documentation. The only Wikidata class or property that I could easily find is Q205892. It's discussion page, https://www.wikidata.o

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread John Erling Blad
Open a new thread for discussion of calendar models in general. On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > On 01.07.2015 16:00, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Markus Krötzsch >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Pierpaolo, >>> >>> This thread was only about Julia

Re: [Wikidata] Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

2015-07-01 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello Quim, We have in Belgium (as Wikimedia Belgium) a partner organisation who is together with us working with cultural institutions to get open datasets to be used in Wikidata. So yes, we are interested. Greetings, Romaine 2015-07-01 17:31 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil : > Hi, it's first of July and

Re: [Wikidata] Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

2015-07-01 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hello Quim, There was always the issue of where to publish datasets from partner organisations like a http://datahub.io/ Is that being considered in this new iteration? Cheers, Micru On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Romaine Wiki wrote: > Hello Quim, > > We have in Belgium (as Wikimedia Belgium

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 01.07.2015 18:03, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: ... Even the very nice email from Markus that gives numbers does not provide any information on where the numbers come from. I just ran a simple Java program based on Wikidata Toolkit to count the date values. The features I used for counti

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
On 07/01/2015 07:00 AM, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Markus Krötzsch > wrote: >> Dear Pierpaolo, >> >> This thread was only about Julian and Gregorian calendar dates. If and >> how other calendar models should be supported in some future is >> another (potentially

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 01.07.2015 18:14, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: On 07/01/2015 07:00 AM, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote: Dear Pierpaolo, This thread was only about Julian and Gregorian calendar dates. If and how other calendar models should be supported in

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Thanks. This helps in finding out how to reproduce the numbers. However, I'm still confused as to how these bits of data are part of the Wikidata data/knowledge model. Where is the description of getPreferredCalendarModel, for example? http://javadox.com/org.wikidata.wdtk/wdtk-datamodel/0.1.0/o

Re: [Wikidata] Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

2015-07-01 Thread Benjamin Good
Quim, I'm not familiar with GLAM or what you are really asking for here. Could you elaborate a little? Our group is actively engaged in writing bots for populating wikidata with trusted biomedical information and for using that information to drive applications such as Wikipedia. Processes for

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Peter, you might be looking for this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/DataModel#Dates_and_times Cheers, Denny On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:48 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < pfpschnei...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. > > This helps in finding out how to reproduce the numbers. > > However, I'm

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread John Erling Blad
Wouldn't it be better to use iso8601 as internal format? ons. 1. jul. 2015, 18.45 skrev Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>: > On 01.07.2015 18:14, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > > On 07/01/2015 07:00 AM, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Markus Krötzs

Re: [Wikidata] Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

2015-07-01 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Hi Quim, Sylvia, Lydia and Wikidatans, In terms of strategic partnerships with CC Wikidata, and this Wikidata Engineering Community project looking for - "* people that have been in touch with organizations willing to contribute their open data" - in what ways could CC World University and Scho

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread John Erling Blad
That should be "default calendar model". My screw up... ;/ ons. 1. jul. 2015, 20.08 skrev John Erling Blad : > Wouldn't it be better to use iso8601 as internal format? > > ons. 1. jul. 2015, 18.45 skrev Markus Krötzsch < > mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>: > >> On 01.07.2015 18:14, Peter F. Patel-S

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 01.07.2015 20:08, John Erling Blad wrote: Wouldn't it be better to use iso8601 as internal format? Yes, that was essentially our original proposal. ISO8601 is a syntax for proleptic Gregorian dates, so this would be the internal calendar model. ISO has no such detailed way to specify preci

Re: [Wikidata] calendar model screwup

2015-07-01 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Thanks. That helps a lot. Is that the way that things are going to be done in the future, i.e., dates will be stored using the specified calendar model instead of being converted? peter On 07/01/2015 10:52 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Peter, > > you might be looking for this: > > https://www

Re: [Wikidata] Goal: Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data organizations

2015-07-01 Thread Quim Gil
Thank you very much for this quick and very diverse wave of feedback. I'm trying to keep the description of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950 up to date, and you are welcome to edit too. The deliverable of this goal is basically documentation, so the first question is where should that doc