Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Hoi David, No you are not a bully. Indeed as you suggested, "catalog" was used because there was no agreement to be had for a new property. It is why the repurposing of an existing property was accepted. Having data makes it easier because it is relatively easy to replace one property (including qu

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Thank you. This 16 year library veteran is utterly confounded by this concept of "catalog" (does that make me a bully?). If that was the best option available at some prior point- repurposing some property for some new need- all well and good. But it seems clear it was (and is) not a clear, intuiti

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

My understanding of identifiers and authorities is that they come from established entities, i.e., VIAF contributors http://www.oclc.org/en/viaf/contributors.html If we can query off a BLT identifier that would be great. But the task list items don't have unique identifiers established -- and that

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

These projects all have namespaces on En Wikipedia. If there was consensus that the projects should have Wikidata namespaces -- if that is something the community would allow and would embrace, that would be something I would support doing. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Hoi, What do you mean by an "invitation" ? I do not see how that applies. Thanks, GerardM On 6 January 2018 at 18:03, LeadSongDog wrote: > Erika, > Well, any authority record for each event could capture location, date, > and links to the invitation and any generated products externally t

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Erika, Well, any authority record for each event could capture location, date, and links to the invitation and any generated products externally to wiki worlds. Would that not be constructive in the context of establishing wikidatan notability? > On Jan 6, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Brill Lyle wrote

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 9:53 AM Brill Lyle wrote: > Yes. This is the crux of the matter, the big question: *"I'm not sure we > should store this kind of data on Wikidata."* > So, I miss the ideas and mantra we had in Freebase. "some data is better than no data". It really was FREE in the sense t

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Yes. This is the crux of the matter, the big question: *"I'm not sure we should store this kind of data on Wikidata."* I disagree with "*Point 2 and 3 are for the BLT community to solve.*" In the interest of transparency, Gerard, myself, and BLT came to and are coming to the Wikidata community for

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Hi LeadSongDog, Yes that is an article that is part of the press list that the Black Lunch Table has generated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_Table/Press Again, not a huge fan of using refs to justify an outreach initiative. Plus would it be necessary to use this ref t

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Hi Charles, Thanks for taking the time to try to understand the issues that are being raised here. - Wikipedia initiatives need a unique identifier in Wikidata they can use on Wikidata to tag items to their initiative -- and most importantly run SPARQL queries on -- I don't think a Q number will

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

On 6 January 2018 at 14:21, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > So by changing the venue and determining that another discussion is more > "important" you reduce the relevance of what is happening. You also change > the discussion. Gerard, I have done none of these things, Stop making such misrepresentatio

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Hoi, So by changing the venue and determining that another discussion is more "important" you reduce the relevance of what is happening. You also change the discussion. That discussion is already old. That discussion came more or less to a conclusion. Its conclusion is not accepted by all. So movin

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

On 6 January 2018 at 01:34, Charles Horn wrote: > As a relatively recent contributor to Wikidata, I have been struggling to > understand the objections to the Black Lunch Table's use of the catalog > property and the points of view behind this discussion. Understandably you may not be aware that

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

I have now created a property proposal for a new property, "Wikidata focus list", to act as a drop-in replacement for some current uses of P972. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wikidata_focus_list Let's sort this thing out. -- James. On 06/01/2018 10:40, Maarten Da

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

On 05-01-18 22:55, Jane Darnell wrote: I object to your use of the catalog property to link to something that is not a catalog. I don't see why my objection leads you to expect me to offer an alternative way to track your project. I am not responsible for your project and don't understand what

[Wikidata] 9 days left to submit your proposal to WikiIndaba

Dear Mr. or Ms., I thank you for your efforts. Want to share and discuss your Wikimedia experience with African community? Need to have African volunteers involved in your Wikimedia project? Like to explain useful ideas and knowledge to African wikimedians? It is time to do that. In fact, you can

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

*list moderator hat on" Folks, can we please have this discussion without calling people names and so on? Wikidata is supposed to be better than this. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

Erika, You might consider using https://www.artsy.net/article/the-art-genome-project-why-are-all-the-black-artists-sitting-together-in-the-cafeteria as a ref. There must be something usable there. From what I've seen it seems that BLT is principally a series of informal meetings, only some of w