Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread David Cuenca
Yes, that would be it: one work-item (acting as hub), x edition items connected to the work-item, each edition-item connected to its corresponding Wikisource page with a sitelink and, on Wikisource, an auto-generated nav bar that lists all sitelinks from all edition-items on the left (equivalent to

[Wikidata-l] classes and qualifiers

2013-11-04 Thread Thomas Douillard
Hey, I got an ontology question. Classes are, in semantic web framework and their foundations like Description Logic, if I'am not wrong, something like a lohic predicate that intensionaly or extentionaly defines the properties of their instances. They are usually not qualified, but in Wikidata, a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Questions about statement qualifiers

2013-11-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Antoine, The main answer to your questions is that the data model of Wikidata defines a *data structure* not the *informal meaning* that this data structure has in an application context (that is: what we, humans, want to say when we enter it). I try to explain this a bit better below. Ho

Re: [Wikidata-l] Questions about statement qualifiers

2013-11-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hi Antoine, On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Antoine Zimmermann wrote: > Hello, > > > I have a few questions about how statement qualifiers should be used. > > > First, my understanding of qualifiers is that they define statements about > statements. So, if I have the statement: > > Q17(Japan)

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
This sounds feasible, yes. If I understand correctly, you want one item for each work (or work expression?), and one for each edition of that work. The editions would link back to the work with a is-edition-of property (or the other way around: the work item would have an "editions" statement for

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread David Cuenca
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Am 04.11.2013 16:10, schrieb Amir Ladsgroup: > > If you're using statement instead of site link who we can trace item from > > article of wikisource to wikidata > > This will very soon be possible with queries. > Actually a query or Lua woul

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 04.11.2013 16:10, schrieb Amir Ladsgroup: > If you're using statement instead of site link who we can trace item from > article of wikisource to wikidata This will very soon be possible with queries. > and how can show the interwikis in article of > wikisource? You can't control the sidebar d

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Am 03.11.2013 19:59, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): > >> *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an > >> item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an > >> open bug in bugzilla for Pywikibot ab

[Wikidata-l] IEG Understanding Wikidata

2013-11-04 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I'd like to mention also on this list my grant proposal "Understanding Wikidata". The full description is on Meta Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Understanding_Wikidata Kind regards Ziko ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists