Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Thomas Douillard
@David: I think you should have a look to fuzzy logic https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q224821 :) 2014-05-29 1:48 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com: Markus, On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: This is an easy question once you have

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 29/05/14 12:41, Thomas Douillard wrote: @David: I think you should have a look to fuzzy logic https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q224821:) Or at probabilistic logic, possibilistic logic, epistemic logic, ... it's endless. Let's first complete the data we are sure of before we start to discuss

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Thomas Douillard
hehe, maybe some kind inferences can lead to a good heuristic to suggest properties and values in the entity suggester. As they naturally become softer and softer by combination of uncertainties, this could also provide some kind of limits for inferences by fixing a probability below which we

[Wikidata-l] 2nd Call for Papers - DChanges 2014: ACM DocEng Workshop on (Document) Changes: modeling, detection, storage and visualization

2014-05-29 Thread Angelo Di Iorio
** Apologies for cross-posting ** 2nd International Workshop on (Document) Changes: Modeling, Detection, Storage and Visualization http://diff.cs.unibo.it/dchanges2014/ Part of ACM DocEng

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 29/05/14 13:53, Thomas Douillard wrote: hehe, maybe some kind inferences can lead to a good heuristic to suggest properties and values in the entity suggester. As they naturally become softer and softer by combination of uncertainties, this could also provide some kind of limits for

[Wikidata-l] What data should be in Wikidata? (Was: What is the point of properties?)

2014-05-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
David, I need to answer to your first assertion separately: On 29/05/14 01:48, David Cuenca wrote: Well, our goal it to gather the whole human knowledge, not to use it. No, that is really not the case. Our goal is to gather carefully selected parts of the human knowledge. Our community

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Markus Krötzsch
The other answers, under the original subject: On 29/05/14 01:48, David Cuenca wrote: Settled :) Let's leave it at defined as a trait of I don't think it is very clear what the intention of this property is. What are the limits of its use? What is it meant to do? Can behaviour really be a

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Andrew Gray
One other issue to bear in mind: it's *simple* to have properties as a separate thing. I have been following this discussion with some interest but... well, I don't think I'm particularly stupid, but most of it is completely above my head. Saying here are items, here are a set of properties you

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-29 Thread Thomas Douillard
Héhé, the Wikidata game suggest it may be a little bit too complicated and better abstracted away by a three button game for mass contribution :) 2014-05-29 21:04 GMT+02:00 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: One other issue to bear in mind: it's *simple* to have properties as a separate