Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I know the categories in Commons exist. I also know that you do not have to add categories when an image is uploaded. Many people do not consider the categories because they are just there and are not easy nor obvious without a long study. They are there and they evolve. When the community

[Wikidata-l] Fwd: Compare person data

2014-08-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Amir has created functionality that compares data from en.wp de.wp and it.wp. It is data about humans and it only shows differences where they exist. It compares those four Wikipedias with information in Wikidata. The idea is that the report will be updated regularly. The problem we face

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread James Heald
Also there might be queries one might want to run on the categories, which would be another reason to include them in Commons Wikibase. -- J. On 19/08/2014 07:00, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, I know the categories in Commons exist. I also know that you do not have to add categories when an

Re: [Wikidata-l] Announce: WikiProject Structured Data for Commons

2014-08-19 Thread Luca Martinelli
Ok, I got the point. What you probably need to consider is that focusing on one goal does not mean at all that we have to dismiss all the others. At least, *I* do not think so. You want to focus on research? Fine, do it. I'd like to focus on templates. That's fine too, I guess. We're both

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As it is all the queries there are are external to Wikidata.. Speculating at this time about queries and Commons is futile. Thanks, GerardM On 19 August 2014 10:14, James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: Also there might be queries one might want to run on the categories, which would

Re: [Wikidata-l] Announce: WikiProject Structured Data for Commons

2014-08-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am not in research. I am into making Wikidata into a reasonable resource. To achieve this I add gazillions of statements and I am happy when people focus on templates. However without the data, templates that make use of Wikidata are niche applications. Without some mature understanding of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Announce: WikiProject Structured Data for Commons

2014-08-19 Thread David Cuenca
Thanks for the stats, Gerard. Two thoughts: - With so many items without description I wonder why we don't have the automatic descriptions gadget enabled by default. - There are many items without statements, but not that many articles without a category -- would it be possible to have a game that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: Compare person data

2014-08-19 Thread Deryck Chan
Wikidata Game? Choose the correct piece of data On 19 Aug 2014 08:43, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Amir has created functionality that compares data from en.wp de.wp and it.wp. It is data about humans and it only shows differences where they exist. It compares those

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Thomas Douillard
Note that in Wikidata we are developping methods and tools to class items in « classes », which in short are sets of real world things or events. In languages like the w3c language and standards OWL2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OWL2. In this language you can assign a class to an element (a media

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: Compare person data

2014-08-19 Thread Jan Dudík
I'm afraid this is more about searching in sources and adding sources, than about playing game... JAnD 2014-08-19 11:40 GMT+02:00 Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com: Wikidata Game? Choose the correct piece of data On 19 Aug 2014 08:43, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I cannot parse this .. Thanks, GerardM On 19 August 2014 11:43, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Note that in Wikidata we are developping methods and tools to class items in « classes », which in short are sets of real world things or events. In languages like the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Thomas Douillard
Can you be more specific ? 2014-08-19 12:20 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, I cannot parse this .. Thanks, GerardM On 19 August 2014 11:43, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Note that in Wikidata we are developping methods and tools to

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 19.08.2014 12:20, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, I cannot parse this .. What Thomas is saying is that classification (putting things into categories) and querying (finding things based on certain properties) can be combined in a natural way. In ontology languages like OWL, you can make

[Wikidata-l] 2nd LIDER Hackathon Preparation call: today at 14:00

2014-08-19 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Apologies for cross-posting. This is a kind reminder about the weekly Google Hangout to prepare for the LIDER Hackathon in Leipzig (Sept 1st). The preparation Hangouts will happen each Tuesday at 2pm Leipzig time until the event. Links to join can be found here:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread David Cuenca
Markus, is this related with the idea of creating a database of automatically inferred statements that you presented some time ago? Cheers, Micru On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: On 19.08.2014 12:20, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Breaking serialization change!

2014-08-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Huidong Zhang anthonyzh...@google.com wrote: How about the XML format returned by api.php?action=queryprop=revisionsrvprop=contentformat=xml? What will it change to? No those will not change. For example: The current return value of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Announce: WikiProject Structured Data for Commons

2014-08-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:19 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the stats, Gerard. Two thoughts: - With so many items without description I wonder why we don't have the automatic descriptions gadget enabled by default. I am a bit worried about enabling this by default for

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey :) On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:22 PM, James Heald j.he...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: Thanks Lydia! Something that occurs to me is that one may well want to include Commons categories in such a database, not just files, which presumably might be stored on a page like Info:Category:Insert random

Re: [Wikidata-l] Announce: WikiProject Structured Data for Commons

2014-08-19 Thread David Cuenca
It is possible to represent linguistic patterns as items but it needs some work to conceptualize a structure that can be used in several languages. Then you could implement a complex query that selects the one that displays the most information. The biggest hurdle I see is that we are not storing

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 19.08.2014 13:34, David Cuenca wrote: Markus, is this related with the idea of creating a database of automatically inferred statements that you presented some time ago? I guess it is related, yes. Although currently I am first focussing on efficient query answering -- inference will come

[Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages

2014-08-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
Is there a better way to get at more items in the In Other Languages section than to change the interface language with ?setlang= ? I had an item I wanted to give the name in Italian for (it was mentioned in the English Wikipedia article) and I discovered that the only way I could find to get

Re: [Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages

2014-08-19 Thread Sjoerd de Bruin
You can add a babel template to your user page, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjoerddebruin#Babel ;) Sjoerd de Bruin sjoerddebr...@me.com Op 19 aug. 2014, om 19:15 heeft Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com het volgende geschreven: Is there a better way to get at more

Re: [Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages

2014-08-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
You can add a babel template to your user page, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjoerddebruin#Babel ;) It was a one off thing though. I don't actually know Italian. Just in this one case I wanted to add something that happened to be in Italian. I was hoping there might be some

Re: [Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages

2014-08-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: You can add a babel template to your user page, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Sjoerddebruin#Babel ;) It was a one off thing though. I don't actually know Italian. Just in this one case I wanted

Re: [Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages

2014-08-19 Thread Lukas Benedix
Is there a mockup of the interface for this particular task? Can't find any for editing tasks. Lukas Am Di 19.08.2014 20:33, schrieb Lydia Pintscher: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: You can add a babel template to your user page, see

Re: [Wikidata-l] Access other In Other Languages

2014-08-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Lukas Benedix lukas.bene...@fu-berlin.de wrote: Is there a mockup of the interface for this particular task? Can't find any for editing tasks. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:UI_redesign_input The second mock-up shows the header in expanded mode.

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Spam] Re: Announce: WikiProject Structured Data for Commons

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew Gray
Can we try displaying them but marking them in some way? eg/ [German person 1885-1952] for an automatic description, German mechanical engineer, 1885-1952 for a human-written one - depending on how and where they're shown in the interface we could also try italicising them, using a lighter shade

[Wikidata-l] Linking to Redirects

2014-08-19 Thread Derric Atzrott
There was an RFC last year about linking interwiki linking to redirect pages on the various Wikipedias: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/A_need_for_a_resolut ion_regarding_article_moves_and_redirects#new_Proposal_zero Any idea what ever happened to that? Was a bug

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] badges support on Wikidata

2014-08-19 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hello Lydia, I wrote a text with explanation, why, what, where, etc to inform the Dutch community about the long wanted change at: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#Vooraankondiging:_Verhuizing_ster-icoontjes_in_interwikilijst_naar_Wikidata Another short announcement is placed at:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Commons Wikibase

2014-08-19 Thread David Cuenca
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote: I guess it is related, yes. Although currently I am first focussing on efficient query answering -- inference will come after that :-) Whether one stores the results in a database or not is an implementation

Re: [Wikidata-l] Linking to Redirects

2014-08-19 Thread Legoktm
On 8/19/14, 12:58 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: There was an RFC last year about linking interwiki linking to redirect pages on the various Wikipedias: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/A_need_for_a_resolut ion_regarding_article_moves_and_redirects#new_Proposal_zero