Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-08 Thread Joe Filceolaire
Actually the problem isn't that you can only have one link from a wikisource work from a wikidata item. We have separate wikidata items for each edition of a work (because these have different metadata) so multiple editions of the same work on a wikisource link to different wikidata items. This

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-08 Thread Sven Manguard
You bring up a good point. Is there anyway to have the interwiki links that show up on the sidebar point to a page with a different q# ID then the should? If we can do that we can have every version of a given book all point to a disambiguation page that lists all of the versions. I can't think of

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-08 Thread David Cuenca
The sitelinks are not used directly, they are aggregated by using the work item as a central hub. Basically the algorithm is: 1.- query all edition-items that are connected to the same work-item using edition of 2.- make a list of all the sitelinks used on each one of these edition-items (1

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-06 Thread David Cuenca
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.dewrote: However, MediaWiki only supports one link per target site in the sidebar. Maybe an on-page navigation box could be used instead of proper language links? With the help of JavaScript, the contents of that nav

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 06.11.2013 13:43, schrieb David Cuenca: On English Wikisource they were using this template to allow more than one link per language: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Interwiki-info However it seems that is not working now on this page (the interwiki list should be much larger

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-06 Thread David Cuenca
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.dewrote: MediaWiki used to handle this inconsistently: multiple links for the same language where shown in the sidebar, but not recorded in the database. This inconsistency was fixed a few months ago - now, only one link

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 05.11.2013 01:12, schrieb David Cuenca: Yes, that would be it: one work-item (acting as hub), x edition items connected to the work-item, each edition-item connected to its corresponding Wikisource page with a sitelink and, on Wikisource, an auto-generated nav bar that lists all sitelinks

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 03.11.2013 19:59, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an open bug in

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 04.11.2013 16:10, schrieb Amir Ladsgroup: If you're using statement instead of site link who we can trace item from article of wikisource to wikidata This will very soon be possible with queries. and how can show the interwikis in article of wikisource? You can't control the sidebar

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread David Cuenca
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.dewrote: Am 04.11.2013 16:10, schrieb Amir Ladsgroup: If you're using statement instead of site link who we can trace item from article of wikisource to wikidata This will very soon be possible with queries. Actually

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
This sounds feasible, yes. If I understand correctly, you want one item for each work (or work expression?), and one for each edition of that work. The editions would link back to the work with a is-edition-of property (or the other way around: the work item would have an editions statement for

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-03 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Two questions: *Why don't you add Wikiquote?, It's pretty look like Wikipedia in concept (you don't have to make so many new items when you add Wikiquote as client of Wikidata) *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an item in wikisource to several item in another

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir Ladsgroup, 03/11/2013 18:36: Two questions: *Why don't you add Wikiquote?, It's pretty look like Wikipedia in concept (you don't have to make so many new items when you add Wikiquote as client of Wikidata) Very true! Perhaps the proposal needs more supporters, it should be very trivial

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-03 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Amir Ladsgroup, 03/11/2013 18:36: Two questions: *Why don't you add Wikiquote?, It's pretty look like Wikipedia in concept (you don't have to make so many new items when you add Wikiquote as client of Wikidata)

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 03.11.2013 19:59, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an open bug in bugzilla for Pywikibot about it: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55090) Are

[Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-02 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey everyone, The next sister project to get language links via Wikidata is Wikisource. We're currently planning this for January 13. The coordination is happening at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikisource On this page we're also looking for ambassadors to help spread the messages to

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is very similar in content as the Commons Creator and Institution namespaces Thanks, Gerard On 2 November 2013 16:30, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hey everyone, The next sister project to get language links via Wikidata is Wikisource. We're currently

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-02 Thread David Cuenca
Excellent news! :) For the author pages it is quite straight-forward. For the bibliographic metadata the easiest would be to connect wikidata items with the Book: page generated by the (planned) Book Manager extension. The Book: page is supposed to provide the book structure and act as a metadata