Re: [WikiEN-l] Another Mirror Question

2008-12-11 Thread geni
2008/12/11 Andrew Famiglietti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also, I'm just curious as to why on earth they have decided to do this. Why host an (awful) machine translation of the french site when you could just as easily host the english wikipedia content? What gives? Does anyone have any idea? - Andy

Re: [WikiEN-l] Another Mirror Question

2008-12-11 Thread Oskar Sigvardsson
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM, geni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hosting the English wikipedia will get you hammered with a duplicate content penalty so you tend not to rank very high in search results. In theory a machine translation of French would avoid that. -- geni From the Astronomy

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
Diffs or it didn't happen! :) Michel 2008/12/11 Phil Sandifer snowspin...@gmail.com Avoiding making this a de facto RFC on a given article... I've been getting into a fairly nasty feud on a popular culture article in which I added an academic criticism section, summarizing articles I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
There's a limit to how much I can comment if you don't want to give the specific example (your summary of the events will undoubtedly be incomplete and biased by your opinions - that's always the way with this kind of thing). What I will say is that the important principle here is that of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Fred Bauder
Avoiding making this a de facto RFC on a given article... I've been getting into a fairly nasty feud on a popular culture article in which I added an academic criticism section, summarizing articles I could find on the subject. This seems to me well-supported by numerous policies. But it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.org wrote: Diffs or it didn't happen! Have the folks on the lists forgotten how to use contribs: You can easily find examples in Phil's contrib history. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tori_Amosdiff=prevoldid=257127013

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Steve Summit
Michel wrote: Diffs or it didn't happen! :) I see the smiley, so perhaps I shouldn't come back with a serious response, but this interests me. It is very, very difficult to discuss a general issue on this list. If you (1) provide a specific example, people immediately dive in on the specifics

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Thomas Dalton
2008/12/11 Steve Summit s...@eskimo.com: Michel wrote: Diffs or it didn't happen! :) I see the smiley, so perhaps I shouldn't come back with a serious response, but this interests me. It is very, very difficult to discuss a general issue on this list. If you (1) provide a specific

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Judson Dunn
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Phil Sandifer snowspin...@gmail.com wrote: Avoiding making this a de facto RFC on a given article... Not knowing what article you were talking about, (which is helpful in some situations) my expectation in a reader-role with wikipedia is that articles would have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/11 Judson Dunn cohes...@sleepyhead.org: After seeing the diff linked, and the fact that this is the Tori Amos article, yes, I think your audience/local-editorship for this article is probably significantly non-standard, more opinionated, and motivated than most subjects. Tori fans are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread Thomas Larsen
On 12/12/08, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Scholarship in the arts is not primarily opinion, but analysis based on study of the primary sources, the same fundamental approach used on all other subjects. [/snip] You're right--and I guess this issue brings us down to the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Thomas Larsen larsen.thoma...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/08, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Scholarship in the arts is not primarily opinion, but analysis based on study of the primary sources, the same fundamental approach used on all other

Re: [WikiEN-l] Anti-intellectualism

2008-12-11 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 12/11/2008 9:00:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, fredb...@fairpoint.net writes: That's all I'm asking in this general discussion, recognition that there is a problem. -- In the articles I've worked on, and I mostly work on biography and a little on