Re: [WikiEN-l] Reasons I care less about Wikipedia than I used to, No. 43

2009-01-19 Thread James Farrar
2009/1/19 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: Instance number 192,453,345,252 that someone complains about something that makes no sense and turns out to be completely wrong. Next! No-one said that. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To

Re: [WikiEN-l] Announcing Epistemia, a new wiki encyclopedia

2009-01-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/1/19 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Indeed, but competition is good so I wish them all the best, even if the challenge before them may turn out to be impossible. Oh yeah. Enough people complain that Wikipedia and/or its community is hopelessly broken that there's got to be more

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2009-01-19 Thread Wily D
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Skyring skyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: Delirium wrote: ... strongly discourage edits that change one to another, unless the article's strongly associated with a specific English-speaking country

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reasons I care less about Wikipedia than I used to, No. 43

2009-01-19 Thread Ron Ritzman
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:29 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Which brings up the question What is Wikipedia?. Is meta-content like User: space and Wikipedia: space actually part of Wikipedia? A question I thought of after reading [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Angr this]. Is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2009-01-19 Thread Skyring
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Wily D wilydoppelgan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Skyring skyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: Delirium wrote: ... strongly discourage edits that change one to another, unless

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reasons I care less about Wikipedia than I used to, No. 43

2009-01-19 Thread Wily D
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Ron Ritzman ritz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:29 AM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: Which brings up the question What is Wikipedia?. Is meta-content like User: space and Wikipedia: space actually part of Wikipedia? A question I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reasons I care less about Wikipedia than I used to, No. 43

2009-01-19 Thread Wilhelm Schnotz
The problem is *this* particular example is on commons. If james meant to point out our complex image policy.. He should have linked to a closed discussion on en wiki. Common's rules are simpler then en wiki... Most of the complexity is really copyright law. On 1/19/09, Ron Ritzman

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2009-01-19 Thread Wilhelm Schnotz
The problem is picking the correct one involves lots of drama and arbcom cases. Drama that we did not have before the unlinking of dates. (This I a direct consequence of date unlinking) To be honest, I wonder if there is a way to reformat dates by .js script... We could have two scripts... One 1

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reasons I care less about Wikipedia than I used to, No. 43

2009-01-19 Thread Wilhelm Schnotz
Right, but it is on wikimedia commons. If it were hosted on en wikipedia, you could argue fair use, etc. As far as the image's current status, I explained that in a prior post. Remember commons hosts only free images. On 1/19/09, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/19 Wilhelm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2009-01-19 Thread Skyring
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org wrote: The problem is picking the correct one involves lots of drama and arbcom cases. Drama that we did not have before the unlinking of dates. (This I a direct consequence of date unlinking) Picking the correct format for

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reasons I care less about Wikipedia than I used to, No. 43

2009-01-19 Thread geni
2009/1/19 James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com: True, but IMX images hosted on enwiki get moved to commons PDQ. Not always. There are situations where they cannot be moved and notices are placed. In this case however the image could not be used on en since we don't allow non free images outside

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2009-01-19 Thread Wilhelm Schnotz
Sure, we have one going on now just over the *unlinking*. Check WP:RFAR under current cases. We have had problems with types of English being an issue and going to arbcom, this is the same type of thing... Now that it is harder to set your settings to hide the wrong format (now it is as difficult

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jeremy Hanson

2009-01-19 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Christopher Grant chrisgrantm...@gmail.com wrote: We have bots that do that, grawp still gets through(part of the reason is that these proxies need to be blocked globally or else grawp can still abuse SUL and TOR to create accounts and make the required 10

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jeremy Hanson

2009-01-19 Thread Christopher Grant
You mean something similar to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBlockOpenProxies ? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/ProcseeBotlooks like the best solution to the proxy part atm. It would be good if we could get it to run with global blocks. - Chris On Tue,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jeremy Hanson

2009-01-19 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Christopher Grant chrisgrantm...@gmail.com wrote: You mean something similar to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBlockOpenProxies ? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/ProcseeBotlooks like the best solution to the proxy

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jeremy Hanson

2009-01-19 Thread Christopher Grant
Its disabled for very good reason If you enable this, every editor's IP address will be scanned for open HTTP proxies. Good luck getting someone to enable it. - Chris On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Christopher

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2009-01-19 Thread Skyring
Ah. I see. It's something else entirely. I was hoping for some input on the points I raised... On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org wrote: Sure, we have one going on now just over the *unlinking*. Check WP:RFAR under current cases. We have had problems with