[WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-08-28 Thread stevertigo
Well-sourced junk that reads like it belongs on Simple En.wiki: '''Adaptation''' is one of the basic phenomena of biology.Williams, George C. 1966. ''Adaptation and natural selection: a critique of some current evolutionary thought''. Princeton. "Evolutionary adaptation is a phenomenon of pervasiv

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
I don't use a signature. Blame the AOL programming bastards for spamming my email. -Original Message- From: Soxred93 To: English Wikipedia Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 8:19 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity Nice signature... I found this in my

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Keegan Paul
The Welcoming "committee" is a central repository for welcoming new users. The Welcome Wagon sought to bring them into the community, much like the neighbor that knocks on your door with brownies and tells you all the sekrets about the neighbors. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Emily Monroe wro

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Soxred93
Nice signature... I found this in my spam box. :) -X! On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:31 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > Welcome Wagon, we used to have one didn't we? I don't know what > happened > to it, it seems like stale news. > > > Free Tutor Program - new users can choose to sign up for tutoring

Re: [WikiEN-l] The best coverage yet of the living bios rule

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
Dude! Conspirapedia is not taken! What a fantabulous website that would be Get on it. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
Lack of visible reward. Yes I think that's is it, or part of it anyway. It's why I've been fixated at Knol for a while. Wanting to see my own name in lights. Too bad Wikipedia couldn't have a sister project for publishing scholarly papers. Or could we? Or do we? Will Johnson -Original M

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
I... friggin... love it. And I rarely love anything at all. I mean I don't even love Cheetos, although I like it. But this page you linked is the first time I've ever encountered anyone doing this. It's the wave of the future! I wish I had the technical ability to do it, or the time. I'm like

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
Maybe that was the name, I can't remember. I think they tried to welcome me once, and I put my boots up on the table, pulled the cigar out of my mouth and said, "Make my day fat boy". Or it's possible that was a movie I saw. -Original Message- From: Emily Monroe To: English Wikipedi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
The last book of Wikipedia was too fluffy. I prefer reality. Gritty, in the trenches, kick sand in your face, thumb wrestle to the death! Tabloid style. -Original Message- From: FT2 To: English Wikipedia Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 2:13 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

Re: [WikiEN-l] The best coverage yet of the living bios rule

2009-08-28 Thread KillerChihuahua
Fabulous. Scarily accurate as well. - Original Message - From: "David Gerard" To: "English Wikipedia" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] The best coverage yet of the living bios rule > http://www.cracked.com/blog/ted-kennedy-the-movie/ > > > - d. > _

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread David Goodman
the lack of visible reward will have the same effect on them as on new contributors. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/8/28 Thomas Dalton : >> 2009/8/28 David Gerard : > >>> Protection is a failure

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/8/28 : > Just imagine how many Terabytes of data are hiden under the iceberg tip > that is what the casual reader sees.  I have yet to see any paper about say, > "The Twisty Turny Biography of Lincoln Evolves Over Six Years" There's something related that's been floating around for a fe

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Emily Monroe
> The Welcome Wagon, like Esperanza, got taken out back and shot a few > years ago when we decided to remove traces of perceived social > networking in late '06 early '07. What was the Welcome Wagon, and how is it different from the Welcoming Committee? Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Ke

[WikiEN-l] The best coverage yet of the living bios rule

2009-08-28 Thread David Gerard
http://www.cracked.com/blog/ted-kennedy-the-movie/ - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread FT2
I'm serious. FT2 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:09 PM, wrote: > Only if I get to write the Drama chapter. > > > -Original Message- > From: FT2 > To: English Wikipedia > Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 1:40 pm > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity > > > > > > > > > > > I'd be all u

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread wjhonson
Only if I get to write the Drama chapter. -Original Message- From: FT2 To: English Wikipedia Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity I'd be all up for writing a wikibook introduction to Wikipedia. Anyone else interested? :) FT2 On Fri,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread FT2
I'd be all up for writing a wikibook introduction to Wikipedia. Anyone else interested? :) FT2 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Keegan Paul wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:25 PM, wrote: > > > > > Just imagine how many Terabytes of data are hiden under the iceberg tip > > that is what the ca

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Keegan Paul
The Welcome Wagon, like Esperanza, got taken out back and shot a few years ago when we decided to remove traces of perceived social networking in late '06 early '07. The Birthday crew is really all that remains. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, wrote: > Welcome Wagon, we used to have one didn't

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to Not Bite was Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread WJhonson
Welcome Wagon, we used to have one didn't we? I don't know what happened to it, it seems like stale news. Free Tutor Program - new users can choose to sign up for tutoring for $10 an hour... ok or free whatever. Have you been bitten? Are you frustrated? Do you get laid often enough? (ok sc

[WikiEN-l] Knol goes from a Wikipedia rival to a Craigslist imitator

2009-08-28 Thread WJhonson
Evidently I am now a media darling http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=knol+craigslist The oddest part of this entire experience (other than the fact that it shot me up to over 1,000 views a day), is how much of this "news" is either simple reposting of titles with link, or bl

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Keegan Paul
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:25 PM, wrote: > > Just imagine how many Terabytes of data are hiden under the iceberg tip > that is what the casual reader sees. I have yet to see any paper about > say, > "The Twisty Turny Biography of Lincoln Evolves Over Six Years" > > Will Johnson > > >

[WikiEN-l] Wikien-L Bug Report

2009-08-28 Thread WJhonson
Go to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l Sidebar: Search Posting Archives Type in whatever, click Search Result https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/mmsearch/wikien-l 404 NOT FOUND Will Johnson ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/28/2009 11:20:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecalioc...@me.com writes: > > When we are done, we can revert and voila! Wikipedia has food forever!>> - Just imagine how many Terabytes of data are hiden under the iceberg tip that is what the casual reade

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Emily Monroe
> And we can always revert to the previous Jimbo, so lots for everyone! When we are done, we can revert and voila! Wikipedia has food forever! Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:18 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/8/28 Emily Monroe : > >>> Jimbo is irrelevant. We're cooking and eating him next week. > >

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/28 Emily Monroe : >> Jimbo is irrelevant.  We're cooking and eating him next week. > I'll bet he'll be delicious with BBQ sauce and a side of mashed > potatoes and baked beans. Mmm mmm mmm. X-D And we can always revert to the previous Jimbo, so lots for everyone! - d.

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/28 Thomas Dalton : > 2009/8/28 David Gerard : >> Protection is a failure of the wiki model in the first place. >> Discussion is a poor substitute for editing. > Edit warring is a failure of the wiki model. We use protection to > force people into a discussion model which works better in th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Emily Monroe
> Jimbo is irrelevant. We're cooking and eating him next week. I'll bet he'll be delicious with BBQ sauce and a side of mashed potatoes and baked beans. Mmm mmm mmm. X-D Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:12 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/28/2009 8:10:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 8/28/2009 8:10:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecalioc...@me.com writes: > Holy cow. Is Jimbo aware of this?>> -- Jimbo is irrelevant. We're cooking and eating him next week. W.J. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: >> Do we have a welcome mat rolled out and some magic pixie dust to >> tell people to please not be BITE-y? > > *pixie dust pixie dust* ;-D > >> We don't want a large influx of editors arriving to help after >> reading about things in the news, o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > FT2 wrote: >> The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press last week, >> a number of sources reported that Wikipedia would be recruiting 20,000 >> "unpaid expert editors" as staff to check the articles >> > > I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread kgnp...@gmail.com
No, I haz no link.  By "we" I meant the Foundation, ticket numbers are available upon private request if you have access to the system. -- Sent from my Palm Pre Carcharoth wrote: Could you link to an example? On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Keegan Paul wrote: > ...and the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
FT2 wrote: > The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press last week, > a number of sources reported that Wikipedia would be recruiting 20,000 > "unpaid expert editors" as staff to check the articles > I am actually curious as to where precisely did they pull that partic

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Emily Monroe
> Don't you mean "is the Wikimedia Foundation aware of this?" Yes, that's exactly what I mean! Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Emily Monroe > wrote: >>> The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press >>> last week, a n

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: >> The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press >> last week, a number of sources reported that Wikipedia would be >> recruiting 20,000 "unpaid expert editors" as staff to check the >> articles > > Holy cow. Is Jimbo awar

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/8/28 FT2 : > The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press last week, > a number of sources reported that Wikipedia would be recruiting 20,000 > "unpaid expert editors" as staff to check the articles > > Google: > > http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&hl=en&q=wikipe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Emily Monroe
> The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press > last week, a number of sources reported that Wikipedia would be > recruiting 20,000 "unpaid expert editors" as staff to check the > articles Holy cow. Is Jimbo aware of this? Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 10:04 AM, FT2 wr

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread FT2
The reason for this is, when Flagged Revisions got into the press last week, a number of sources reported that Wikipedia would be recruiting 20,000 "unpaid expert editors" as staff to check the articles Google: http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1&hl=en&q=wikipedia+%22expert+editors%22 Ex

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Emily Monroe
> They seem to think that they are applying for "staff". Maybe we need to make it more obvious that there's no "staff" at Wikipedia, at least for the time being. Emily On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:49 AM, Keegan Paul wrote: > ...and they are continuing to roll in. Any more firm ideas? They > seem

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/27 Anthony : > Can someone explain how that works from a technical standpoint?  If an > article is flag-protected and has no reviewed version, what shows up to IP > users? It was the most recent version when I originally studied the extension. That could have changed, though. _

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/28 David Gerard : > 2009/8/28 Thomas Dalton : > >> The standard rule is that even admins aren't supposed to edit >> protected pages. They are meant to stay as they are while people >> discuss. I don't see the benefit to full-flagged protection over full >> regular protection. It might be use

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Andrew Turvey < andrewrtur...@googlemail.com> wrote: > - "Anthony" wrote: > > From: "Anthony" > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Andrew Turvey < > andrewrtur...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> > > 5) Are you supposed to "check" an entire article prior to fl

Re: [WikiEN-l] So, what is the deal with flagged revisions?

2009-08-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/28 Thomas Dalton : > The standard rule is that even admins aren't supposed to edit > protected pages. They are meant to stay as they are while people > discuss. I don't see the benefit to full-flagged protection over full > regular protection. It might be useful for things like widely used

Re: [WikiEN-l] A sudden thought on the media coverage of flagged revisions

2009-08-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/28 Ian Woollard : > 2009/8/26 David Gerard >> There is a perennial media narrative that unmediated content >> production cannot possibly work, as it goes against everything media >> people understand. They have run pretty much THE SAME story about >> Wikipedia every year since it was creat

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Carcharoth
Could you link to an example? On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Keegan Paul wrote: > ...and they are continuing to roll in.  Any more firm ideas?  They seem to > think that they are applying for "staff".  I haven't the time to read all > reporting, feedback would be great. > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009

Re: [WikiEN-l] Positives to publicity

2009-08-28 Thread Keegan Paul
...and they are continuing to roll in. Any more firm ideas? They seem to think that they are applying for "staff". I haven't the time to read all reporting, feedback would be great. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Keegan Paul wrote: > Correction, it was a blog. I just don't remember where.