On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
the lack of visible reward will have the same effect on them as on
new contributors.
What can we do about that?
Emily
In my opinion, nothing. In any societal construct, 10% do the management,
30% does the other
Keegan Paul wrote:
People truly do have no clue about how to edit or the community and how it
functions. Actually, I don't think the functionality of the community can
be described.
Folks are amazed to be told that they can edit willy nilly, make an account
and all that. For all our
Just curious, how often do the subjects of articles you work on come
up in daily life? I work on a lot of pretty obscure and random stuff,
but even still, I'm surprised how often I can claim to have written
the article about some Australian town, a state park, a ski resort...
On the downside,
Just last week I was out at a local flea market (is this the same phrase in
British English?), and I asked a junk-book seller if he's ever seen the
book Foster Family by Buddy Foster. I explained that Buddy was Jody Foster's
older brother who had actually had a TV career several years before
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:11 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
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P.S. A Flea Market (at least in American English) is where people bring all
their junk they want to get rid of, and spread it out for other people to
buy it for very low prices.
We have those. I've heard Americans refer to garage
In a message dated 8/30/2009 6:22:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
carcharot...@googlemail.com writes:
We have those. I've heard Americans refer to garage sales. We
(Brits) have those sometimes, but more often we take stuff to a local
charity shop, or a school's jumble sale, or stick stuff in
Here's one
http://www.travelfurther.net/dictionaries/ba-tz.htm
he doesn't have Trolley though, I think that's one of the funniest ones
he doesnt list
To Brits a trolley is the cart you push around a grocery store.
To Americans a trolley is a streetcar usually electric and old-fashioned
and
I've heard Americans refer to garage sales.
Where I live (mid-Missouri), there's more yard sales and rummage
sales than there are garage sales, but it's all the same thing.
On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:11 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
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P.S. A
n Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:33 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
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I was just thinking the other day, Is there a British-American Dictionary
? That would be a dictionary that has all these various words and phrases
and their translations into British English. Often I'll come upon an
article
Carcharoth schreef:
I was hoping Wiktionary had something, but haven't found it yet.
It's on Wikipedia:
[[List of words having different meanings in British and American English]]
(and the other pages in the navbox at the top of that page).
Eugene
2009/8/30 wjhon...@aol.com:
A flea market must be like your car boot sale, but the flea market's I've
been to, aren't in empty fields, they are more organized and regular.
Car boot sales are often very organised and regular. Some sellers will
be regulars (selling things they made or buy in
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:19:05 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
PS: Daniel, we know you read the digests, but would you please change
the subject header in your replies to match the actual header of the
thread? Thanks.
Yes, I try to, as part of the extensive copy-and-pasting I need to do
when
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:06:45 -0500, Keegan Paul wrote:
In my opinion, nothing. In any societal construct, 10% do the management,
30% does the other work, and 60% come an go as they please. In a way, it is
for the best since you actually get care an concern rather than forced
labor.
Do they
One issue that's bugged me for awhile wrt flagged revisions is whether
we'll have a problem with people saying that [[m:The Wrong Version]]
is still flagged, and theirs hasn't yet been. Granted, if this
becomes an issue, it can be easily enough solved by flagging the
current version (and, if
David Goodmandgoodma...@gmail.com wrote:
From the excellent little book Keywords in Evolutionary Biology by
Evelyn Fox Keller Elisabeth Lloyd,
Adaptation, Current uses by Mary Jane West-Eberhard,
An 'adaptation' is a characteristic of an organism whose form is the
result of selection in a
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:13 PM, stevertigostv...@gmail.com wrote:
But even that is not technically accurate - adaptation is a
perception of overall change - based in a *quantitative estimation of
things being different from what they were before.
Correction - should be: 'adaptation is a
Folks,
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/wikitrust/
Wired reports:
*Starting this fall, you’ll have a new reason to trust the information you
find on Wikipedia: An optional feature called “WikiTrust” will color code
every word of the encyclopedia based on the reliability of its author
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Nathan Russellwindrun...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll just say I'm a bit surprised to be hearing it from Wired first.
Pakaran
WikiTrust itself has been announced and then mentioned on this list
multiple times; in the absence of quotes in the article from Wikimedia
Color coding to show aging of text (Wikitrust) has been around for ages -- I
think since shortly after the Seigenthaler incident or some 2006 incident,
or some research around 2006 ish.
Maybe this means the owners will run it live or something. I don't know.
FT2
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:19
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Keith Old keith...@gmail.com wrote:
Folks,
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/wikitrust/
Wired reports:
*Starting this fall, you’ll have a new reason to trust the information you
find on Wikipedia: An optional feature called “WikiTrust” will color
Or perhaps it is a reputation score - my memory is fuzzy.
Either way, I would like the score to NOT be published. I'd hate to
have the community divided over a piece of software.
Emily
On Aug 30, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Brian wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
What's interesting about WikiTrust is that a trust score is computed for
each individual. I wonder if these will be made public, and if so, how they
will change the community of editors. It seems likely that they will not
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Emily Monroebluecalioc...@me.com wrote:
Or perhaps it is a reputation score - my memory is fuzzy.
Either way, I would like the score to NOT be published. I'd hate to
have the community divided over a piece of software.
Emily
There's also the possibility for
Agree - trust scores are likely to be divisive and easily gamed. I do not
think trust score league tables will help the project.
However as they are also good ways to spot problems and see the reliability
profile of an article on review, perhaps some way might be found to make
some of their
2009/8/31 Nathan Russell windrun...@gmail.com:
WikiTrust itself has been announced and then mentioned on this list
multiple times; in the absence of quotes in the article from Wikimedia
Foundation staff members, I'm not 100% convinced that a decision has
been made to roll it out to all users
In the absence of any actual validation that this measures trust' or
reliability or quality, i am very skeptical it would be highly
inappropriate to integrate into our gadgets.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Andrew
2009/8/31 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com:
Agree - trust scores are likely to be divisive and easily gamed. I do not
think trust score league tables will help the project.
However as they are also good ways to spot problems and see the reliability
profile of an article on review, perhaps some way
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Agree - trust scores are likely to be divisive and easily gamed. I do not
think trust score league tables will help the project.
However as they are also good ways to spot problems and see the
reliability
profile of an article
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Agree - trust scores are likely to be divisive and easily gamed. I do not
think trust score league tables will help the project.
However as they are also
Or if everybody knows how to game then the gaming advantage vanishes.
Full disclosure can also level the field.
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2009/8/31 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
I would also point out that competition can be a very healthy thing and it
could very well be a motivating tool. Assuming an algorithm that is
difficult to game editors might well be very interested in improving their
reputation scores. It could even
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/8/31 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
I would also point out that competition can be a very healthy thing and
it
could very well be a motivating tool. Assuming an algorithm that is
difficult to game editors
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/8/31 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
I would also point out that competition can be a very healthy thing and it
could very well be a motivating tool. Assuming an algorithm that is
difficult to game editors might
Since the analysis is over a period of time, it's easy to trial it offline
by statically calculating results for a past period or certain editors, then
seeing if those mean anything. Overall my suspicion is 1/ it'll be so poorly
correlated with quality as to be unhelpful compared to other guides,
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
Is it not more likely that most long-term editors who have been active
for years have had most of their text mercilessly edited into oblivion
and have very low average trust levels? And more recent editors may
have
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Carcharoth
carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
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Is it not more likely that most long-term editors who have been active
for years have had most of their text mercilessly edited into
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com
wrote:
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Is it not more likely that most long-term editors who
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:33 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
I was just thinking the other day, Is there a British-American Dictionary
? That would be a dictionary that has all these various words and phrases
and their translations into British English. Often I'll come upon an
article obviously
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