Re: [WikiEN-l] WIKIPEDIA FOREVER

2009-11-14 Thread Steve Bennett
It is pretty much traditional for the fundraiser to cause controversy, in fact. I know how Oleg feels. These days I ignore the ads, since I don't see why I should give money well as time: and they are obviously aimed at Wikipedia's readers, who outnumber the people seriously involved with the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: People are doing some interesting work with auto-optimized ad runs that we could look at adapting for next year. Given our massive amounts of traffic, we could accept a pretty broad range of slogans, and let the system

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Ian Woollard
No, self-respect in advertising is about not actually lying about the product, making $$$ by whatever cost effective means is what it's always and *only* been about. The only thing I will say about the current campaign, it's not about Wikipedia Forever, it's about Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] WIKIPEDIA FOREVER

2009-11-14 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: It is pretty much traditional for the fundraiser to cause controversy, in fact. I know how Oleg feels. These days I ignore the ads, since I don't see why I should give money well as time: and they are obviously aimed at

[WikiEN-l] Wiki wiki in popular culture

2009-11-14 Thread David Gerard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80HZCap3aWU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C66LOXsxVFY (The first was a hit in 1983. The second, I have no idea of the provenance of.) - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: People are doing some interesting work with auto-optimized ad runs that we could look at adapting for next year. Given our massive amounts of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Chinese start caring about copyright

2009-11-14 Thread Carcharoth
What's the context here for Wikipedia? Carcharoth On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/technology/internet/31google.html Two Chinese writers’ groups claim that Google has scanned Chinese works into an electronic database in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Marc Riddell
everywhere we can. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Ew. Is that really what advertising and marketing have been reduced to? Spew out whatever random text as long as it gets the $$$? Please let us have some self-respect. Steve on 11/14/09 6:54 PM, Ryan

Re: [WikiEN-l] Chinese start caring about copyright

2009-11-14 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: What's the context here for Wikipedia? Carcharoth The irony of Chinese citizens expecting and getting international copyright to work for them against an (arguably) publicly beneficial project, while the same

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Marc Riddell
on 11/14/09 7:28 PM, Ryan Delaney at ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.netwrote: everywhere we can. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Ew. Is that really what advertising and marketing have

Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 76, Issue 22

2009-11-14 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:54:47 -0800, Ryan Delaney wrote: All those servers and all that bandwidth isn't free. But from what I can see of their budgets, not all that much of their funds are going to that. The rest is going for stuff like maintaining an office in a much more expensive city

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread William Pietri
Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: People are doing some interesting work with auto-optimized ad runs that we could look at adapting for next year. Given our massive amounts of traffic, we could accept a pretty broad range of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/15 William Pietri will...@scissor.com: David pointed us to a variety of clever slogans written by the public. Isabell was speculating that most of them wouldn't work. I'm just saying that we don't have to speculate; we can run all the ones that don't seem blatantly counterproductive,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: that we don't have to speculate; we can run all the ones that don't seem blatantly counterproductive, and find out how well they do. Even better, It is not in fact that easy - because every slogan has to be translated into

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread geni
2009/11/15 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: It is not in fact that easy - because every slogan has to be translated into a pile of languages (by volunteers), and every banner has to be tested thoroughly in all translations The foundation doesn't agree with you there. Well that or it has