To be honest I don't totally see it as hypocrisy, inconsistent? Perhaps a
bit, I actually saw the Google statement as less "we don't support
censorship" and more of a "you broke the implicit (or explicit I don't know)
agreement. I think the biggest thing was that Google thought that if we were
work
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/01/25/100125fa_fact_goodyear?currentPage=all
"The pivotal fact of Gaiman’s childhood is one that appears
nowhere in his fiction and is periodically removed from his Wikipedia
page by the site’s editors. When he was five, his family moved to East
Grinste
The problem is that Wikipedia policies pretty much encourage editors to
filibuster changes they don't like by demanding sources and questioning the
sources. This is useful when there's a serious question about whether the
information is accurate, but it's also abused when there's no serious questi
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote:
...
> elsewhere. Our rules generally don't say we can't use information unless
> it has *two* sources; and in this case it's obvious that the reason the
> information is hard to find is that Neil Gaiman is trying to keep it quiet,
> not that i
2010/1/18 quiddity :
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote:
> ...
>> elsewhere. Our rules generally don't say we can't use information unless
>> it has *two* sources; and in this case it's obvious that the reason the
>> information is hard to find is that Neil Gaiman is trying to
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:29 PM, quiddity wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote:
> ...
>> elsewhere. Our rules generally don't say we can't use information unless
>> it has *two* sources; and in this case it's obvious that the reason the
>> information is hard to find is
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote:
> > Google has agreed to take down links to a website that promotes racist
> views of indigenous Australians.
> > Aboriginal man Steve Hodder-Watt recently discovered the US-based site by
> searching "Aboriginal and Encyclopedia" in the searc
2010/1/18 Gwern Branwen :
> Did you know there's not one single use of the term 'Scientology' on
> neilgaiman.com or any subdomains? Given his family is Scientologist,
> he was raised a Scientologist in a major bastion of Scientology,
> married a Scientologist, and so on, and given that people hav
2010/1/18 Ken Arromdee :
> The problem is that Wikipedia policies pretty much encourage editors to
> filibuster changes they don't like by demanding sources and questioning the
> sources. This is useful when there's a serious question about whether the
> information is accurate, but it's also abu
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2010/1/18 Ken Arromdee :
>
>> The problem is that Wikipedia policies pretty much encourage editors to
>> filibuster changes they don't like by demanding sources and questioning the
>> sources. This is useful when there's a serious question ab
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> 2010/1/18 quiddity :
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ken Arromdee wrote:
>> ...
>>> elsewhere. Our rules generally don't say we can't use information unless
>>> it has *two* sources; and in this case it's obvious that the reason the
>>
On 17 Jan 2010 09:13:08, Fred Bauder wrote:
> > I'm so torn. On the one hand, the hypocrisy is blinding - filtering
> > its search results is exactly what Google was doing in China. On the
> > other hand, it's Encyclopedia Dramatica...
> >
> > --
> > gwern
>
> Oh, they're cool; shine it on...
>
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Gerard wrote:
> If they want to filibuster the reliability of this source, it speaks
> of some child being Robert Heinlein's great-grandson ... Heinlein
> didn't have any children. I wonder where they got that from.
Wikipedia's article on Heinlein nowhere says he didn't
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