Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread Liam Wyatt
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM, SlimVirgin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 20:24, Carcharoth > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:05 AM, SlimVirgin wrote: > >> What kind of reusers do we have in mind? The reason I ask is that the > >> image policies are crippling, or the way they're being appl

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread SlimVirgin
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 20:24, Carcharoth wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:05 AM, SlimVirgin wrote: >> What kind of reusers do we have in mind? The reason I ask is that the >> image policies are crippling, or the way they're being applied is. >> I've lost count of the number of times Holocaust im

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:05 AM, SlimVirgin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 18:28, David Gerard wrote: >> The problem for Commons is also reusability - Wikimedia could get away >> with just about anything, but reusers may not. >> > What kind of reusers do we have in mind? The reason I ask is that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread SlimVirgin
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 18:28, David Gerard wrote: > The problem for Commons is also reusability - Wikimedia could get away > with just about anything, but reusers may not. > What kind of reusers do we have in mind? The reason I ask is that the image policies are crippling, or the way they're being

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread George Herbert
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 4:28 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 8 February 2010 00:16, Ian Woollard wrote: > >> My understanding is that the Wikipedia doesn't really have any risk >> under the law. >> Provided the strictures of the DMCA are followed, any uploaded >> copyrighted material simply has to be

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 8 February 2010 00:16, Ian Woollard wrote: > My understanding is that the Wikipedia doesn't really have any risk > under the law. > Provided the strictures of the DMCA are followed, any uploaded > copyrighted material simply has to be removed promptly if they receive > a copyright violation no

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread Ian Woollard
On 07/02/2010, Ray Saintonge wrote: > In examining this one needs to distinguish between Wikipedia policy and > copyright law. Wikipedia can establish its own policies, which largely, > but not exclusively, tend to be more stringent that copyright law. In > that it can be authoritative; it choos

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread Durova
> > > In summary, it's up to Wikipedia to adopt its own policies. Personally, > I would avoid too doctrinaire an approach; I would more tend to assume > that if one takes a fair-minded approach to including material with > uncertain copyright status the worst that can happen is that some > ghostly

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread SlimVirgin
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 16:35, Ray Saintonge wrote: > SlimVirgin wrote: >> So my first question is: if an image was regarded as in the public domain on >> January 1, 1996 in its (non-U.S.) country of origin, is there a consensus as >> to whether we are allowed to use it on Wikipedia as a PD image?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread Ray Saintonge
SlimVirgin wrote: > Can anyone help with an authoritative opinion about this? The doubts about > it are causing problems on a number of articles, including during featured > article reviews. > > Where an image is in the public domain in its country of origin, and that > country is not the U.S., I b

Re: [WikiEN-l] Custom Google search engines for finding RSs for subject areas

2010-02-07 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > Further examples can be multiplied, but I hope this shows that CSEs > can be very useful for finding online sources; I'm sure it would work > as well for other subject-areas! > > (And since I can't let recent events go, I'll mar my little e

[WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-07 Thread SlimVirgin
Can anyone help with an authoritative opinion about this? The doubts about it are causing problems on a number of articles, including during featured article reviews. Where an image is in the public domain in its country of origin, and that country is not the U.S., I believe we still have to show