[WikiEN-l] Reviving and reforming the new project policy

2010-04-30 Thread Kristofer Bjornson
As an attempt to revive and reform the new project policy page on meta (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_project_policy), the content scope task force at strategy.wikimedia.org has written a new draft. Feedback, additions and changes to that page is very much appreciated. The draft is found

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2010-04-30 Thread Charles Matthews
Is this an old thread or a new one that I missed? I'd like to read the rest of the thread if it is still available. Carcharoth Oops, I appear to have answered a mail of Marc Riddell's from 17 September 2008 - for reasons best known to my email client. It will of course all be online in

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for April 29

2010-04-30 Thread William Pietri
On 04/29/2010 03:35 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Can you point me to where it was decided to admonish new editors with statements like Changes will be published once an authorized user reviews them. (in all red) after they make an

Re: [WikiEN-l] Linking Dates

2010-04-30 Thread Andrew Gray
On 30 April 2010 19:10, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Is this an old thread or a new one that I missed? I'd like to read the rest of the thread if it is still available. It's older than usual, yes :-) Those wanting to follow the original discussion can find it in October 2008:

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for April 29

2010-04-30 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: My understanding, possibly incorrect, is that we can't do that. Because most pages for non-logged-in users are served from caches, most requests don't make it to the point where we can easily show different versions of

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for April 29

2010-04-30 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:24 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: My understanding, possibly incorrect, is that we can't do that. Because most pages for non-logged-in users are served from caches, most

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for April 29

2010-04-30 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: This already happens when users edit.  Otherwise anons would never be able to get the new messages indicator. I stand corrected. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for April 29

2010-04-30 Thread William Pietri
On 04/30/2010 01:34 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: but the general point remains -- you can set a cookie for an unregistered user and it will work as you'd like, causing the user to skip the Squid cache on all pages until the cookie expires. This already happens when users edit.

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for April 29

2010-04-30 Thread William Pietri
On 04/30/2010 04:11 PM, Carcharoth wrote: But seriously, the issue of encouraging people to edit is crucial. Those who want to edit for malicious reasons will nearly always be prepared to jump through hoops, and those most likely to be discouraged by extra hoops to jump through will include