Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wrote: >> That's what he said September 18, 2004.  So no, this wasn't an honest >> mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says).  And >> it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he s

[WikiEN-l] The birth and childhood of Jesus, Wikipedia article

2011-01-17 Thread Tony Sidaway
A Wiki parable. http://www.slate.com/default.aspx?id=2281294 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Skyring
As a Queensland schoolboy, I watched the Apollo 11 landing on 21 July 1969, received through Australia's radio telescopes at Parkes and Honeysuckle Creek, while at the same instant it was late on 20 July 1969 for the American audience basking in a glow of rightful pride. Perhaps Jimmy was playing s

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wrote: >> That's what he said September 18, 2004.  So no, this wasn't an honest >> mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says).  And >> it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he s

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2011 16:55, Anthony wrote: > That's what he said September 18, 2004.  So no, this wasn't an honest > mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says).  And > it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he so often does.  This > was an intentional lie. If he was int

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton >> wrote: >>> Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather >>> than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't soun

Re: [WikiEN-l] Main page changes for 10th anniversary

2011-01-17 Thread MuZemike
IMO I think it was certainly a welcome change (the FL, FT, and FS) if anything else. It's almost natural to suggest that we do something like this on a monthly (or even more) basis. It would most certainly increase overall quality, as Featured Content (especially Featured Lists) would be scruti

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather >> than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie >> to me. A lie is saying something that you k

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-17 Thread Tony Sidaway
I suppose my problem here is understanding how the discussion goes from to . On deep and semantic web, these are useful concepts that will help us to develop more capable data mining tools, but not essential for our task at hand, which is to present a particular subset of structured, organized hu

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wrote: > >> Or, if you need the whole story: > > I think you've just proven Tony's point. Glad to be of service. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather > than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie > to me. A lie is saying something that you know to be untrue, this is > simply a disagreement regardi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Marc Riddell
on 1/17/11 7:30 AM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: > On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki wrote: >> I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader >> as a "deranged vendetta". > > Correction: Jimmy is our founder, he is not our leader. We don't have a > le

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-17 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Charles Matthews wrote: > On 16/01/2011 23:46, Tony Sidaway wrote: > >  > We >> don't need to be able to find every single thing on the internet, only >> the useful stuff.  A huge amount of the useful stuff is on Wikipedia. > > This is true, but not particularly "

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2011 00:50, wiki wrote: > I don't think it helps to characterise any simple questioning of the leader > as a "deranged vendetta". Correction: Jimmy is our founder, he is not our leader. We don't have a leader. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list Wi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2011 04:03, Anthony wrote: > Then, in 2010, > he posts to Talk:Jimmy Wales that "I was born on the 7th of August, > according to my mother. My legal paperwork all says 8th of August, due > to an error on my birth certificate." > (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?User_talk:Jimbo_Wa

Re: [WikiEN-l] Long-term searchability of the internet

2011-01-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 16/01/2011 23:46, Tony Sidaway wrote: > We > don't need to be able to find every single thing on the internet, only > the useful stuff. A huge amount of the useful stuff is on Wikipedia. This is true, but not particularly "objective". The OP's question itself has merit. The long-term view su