Re: [WikiEN-l] Is this a trademark violation?

2013-02-08 Thread William Beutler
Also, every tweet is [citation needed]. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Clearly, it is. > > Fred > > > I just ran into this Twitter account: > > > > https://twitter.com/Wikipedia411 > > > ___ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lis

Re: [WikiEN-l] Somebody must correct this

2011-02-21 Thread William Beutler
The larger point is that this isn't the ideal forum for finding editorial assistance. I'm surprised no one has yet responded with WP:SOFIXIT. At a glance, the page looks OK, if not great. Perhaps there are indeed serious problems with it, but being "u

Re: [WikiEN-l] Alleged Liberal Bias

2010-10-13 Thread William Beutler
Conservapedia isn't even a reliable guide to what most U.S. conservatives think of Wikipedia; despite the broad name, the site is actually run by Young Earth creationists , which is why it's so outlandish. So, put me down for bull. Pardon the a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Citizendium charter ratified

2010-09-26 Thread William Beutler
So what else is being sold? Citizendium and everything2? Britannica and Encarta? There are vast differences between Wikipedia and the aforementioned, and don't forget that Encarta is no more. Wikipedia's "USP" is that there is no other widely-recognized online repository of straightforward informa

Re: [WikiEN-l] “Can you imagine the president of t he American Camellia Society having three stuffed bears in the courthouse?”

2010-09-17 Thread William Beutler
Reminds me of the situation last year where inflammatory but fake Limbaugh quotes were posted to Wikiquote and became a big deal in the U.S. political blogosphere. This was around the time Limbaugh w

Re: [WikiEN-l] Little edits or big edits in the mainspace?

2010-09-17 Thread William Beutler
ri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:57 AM, William Beutler > wrote: > > > I've had the notion to pitch a "Complete Idiot's Guide to Wikipedia" to > > someone (actually tried, once; got a friendly note from an agen

Re: [WikiEN-l] Little edits or big edits in the mainspace?

2010-09-17 Thread William Beutler
I get to it or someone else does... On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 1:05 AM, William Beutler > wrote: > > > I'm always a little self-conscious when non-Wikipedians ask how many > edits I've tallied. > > *Non* Wikipe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Little edits or big edits in the mainspace?

2010-09-17 Thread William Beutler
Having been on Wikipedia since 2006 but with most of my significant work being described by a handful of "read, read, read, write, write, write -- edit" overhauls or creating new pages, I'm always a little self-conscious when non-Wikipedians ask how many edits I've tallied. Hundreds! OK, probably a

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia committee member"

2010-08-30 Thread William Beutler
Now that you mention it, I've avoided the article in the exact same way. Without the spoiler talk, I probably would have visited already. Although it's something like an irritable mental gesture... it's not like I have any plans to see the play anytime in the foreseeable future, and I haven't read

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread William Beutler
As to the "natural monopoly" question, well, there is this resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly There are some markets where network effects and very high entry costs, such as building infrastructure, make it very difficult for competitors to arise. Regarding Wikipedia, the fina

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Articles of War" -- Wikipedia infographic

2010-08-12 Thread William Beutler
27;d love to see that, too. Cheers On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:42 PM, William Beutler > wrote: > > I'm working on a blog post about this, but here's an infographic from > David > > McCandless (who does so

Re: [WikiEN-l] Page loading

2010-08-12 Thread William Beutler
Hmm, doesn't seem any slower than usual here in the contiguous 48! On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Alan Liefting wrote: > Pages with 100s of references seem to be slow to load all of the listed > references. Is this a server speed thing? Or is it our slow internet in > NZ? > Try it with http:/

[WikiEN-l] "Articles of War" -- Wikipedia infographic

2010-08-09 Thread William Beutler
I'm working on a blog post about this, but here's an infographic from David McCandless (who does some nice work, i.e. Information is Beautiful) about Wikipedia edit wars. Full thing here

Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

2010-08-07 Thread William Beutler
be more than an IP or unconfirmed user before they get to tinker with those articles . On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:08 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 7 August 2010 01:45, William Beutler wrote: > > > As a concept, it bears thinking about. I'm not necessarily saying there > >

Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

2010-08-07 Thread William Beutler
lled. And to those asking for an example, not to be glib, but here's a place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Delisted_good_articles On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:13 AM, William Beutler > wrote: > > > As little a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

2010-08-06 Thread William Beutler
fferent thing, not about FAs, but how quality articles evolve over time, especially as major facts (or received wisdom) changes. In that case, I default to the status quo on en-wp, which I think is better than not, as I'm sure most of us do. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Destructionism

2010-08-06 Thread William Beutler
Certainly, it still describes a real phenomenon: articles that attain Featured or Good status, and then have those statuses (statii?) revoked as they degrade. It happens, all right. As a concept, it bears thinking about. I'm not necessarily saying there should be a hold placed on articles that hav

Re: [WikiEN-l] Temporal tags and outdating

2010-05-18 Thread William Beutler
A self-updating template seems very unlikely to this non-programmer, but a bot could certainly be created to handle these tasks. I wonder if that isn't already done on, say, {{as of}} for example? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:24 PM, steve

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread William Beutler
Despite my concerns about the search box location, I was resigned to the Vector changeover until just this moment. And while I'm glad to see the Japanese fixed (and possibly some of the other languages) the new *look* is not an improvement. Too dark, too small. If there is a discussion about thos