Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-19 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Carcharoth wrote: >> I see a lot of these patrolling recent changes in Huggle. I look at >> the user's other contribs and provided I can find just one in the same >> day where he's blanked the page and written "SUCK MY ASS!!!" I'll >> revert the numeric change and

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-19 Thread Steve Summit
Carcharoth wrote: > ...I've seen cases of HUGGLE and TWINKLE users reverting a > vandalised page to a still-vandalised state, and no-one else checking, > and such vandalised pages (now with the "legitimacy" of a revert > from an "approved" user) staying in that state for months. Indeed. And I've

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-19 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Ian Woollard wrote: > >>> One of my pet hates: when an IP changes a figure in in infobox or >>> somewhere in article, with no comment, and no source. I've heard >>> reports of people doing this as sport, just to b

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-19 Thread Bod Notbod
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Ian Woollard wrote: >> One of my pet hates: when an IP changes a figure in in infobox or >> somewhere in article, with no comment, and no source. I've heard >> reports of people doing this as sport, just to be annoying, but in my >> experience, they're often right.

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-18 Thread Ian Woollard
On 19/08/2009, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:04 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> It can be problematic. I frequently edit as an IP when I'm at another >> machine and can't be bothered logging in. The unexplained reversion >> rate is *much* higher than when I edit logged-in, even thoug

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:04 AM, David Gerard wrote: > It can be problematic. I frequently edit as an IP when I'm at another > machine and can't be bothered logging in. The unexplained reversion > rate is *much* higher than when I edit logged-in, even though the > edits are exactly the same sort of

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/17 Steve Bennett : > Summary: With the encyclopaedia being bigger and more complete, it's > less likely that a "onesie"'s edit is worth keeping. > The 1% reversion rate for experienced editors was also interesting. I > doubt my edits get reverted at anything like that high a rate. It can

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-16 Thread Charles Matthews
Steve Bennett wrote: > The 1% reversion rate for experienced editors was also interesting. I > doubt my edits get reverted at anything like that high a rate. > Yes, the mean here might tell less than the median. (I.e. you'd expect to see very different figures for controversial and non-controve

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Charles Matthews wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/12/wikipedia-deletionist-inclusionist "Meanwhile, for those who did not invest vast amounts of time in editing, the experience was very different. "For editors that make between two and nine e

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Pruden
/13/09, Ian Woollard wrote: > From: Ian Woollard > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology > Guardian > To: charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com, "English Wikipedia" > > Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:08 AM > The '

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Luna
Maybe we should stop reverting vandalism. It would improve our statistics, after all. -Luna ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Charles Matthews
Sage Ross wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Charles > Matthews wrote: > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/12/wikipedia-deletionist-inclusionist >> >> Much familiar argument from threads here. Some of the usual suspects >> commenting, and everyone putting in their two cents

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Sage Ross
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Charles Matthews wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/12/wikipedia-deletionist-inclusionist > > Much familiar argument from threads here. Some of the usual suspects > commenting, and everyone putting in their two cents. Somewhere in the > middle is

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Ian Woollard
The 'limit' that's being reached is the article count; so reverts aren't the question. The real question is whether the AFD process is working correctly, particularly for new articles, now that the low-hanging fruit is gone. I've personally seen several of my referenced articles that in all hones

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Andrew Turvey
- "Charles Matthews" wrote: > From: "Charles Matthews" > is the volume of reversions > indicative of good gatekeeping (poor edits to popular and well-developed > articles have little chance of sticking), or bad gatekeeping > (established editors assert ownership)? Stats from 2007 and 20

[WikiEN-l] "Wikipedia approaches its limits" - Technology Guardian

2009-08-13 Thread Charles Matthews
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/12/wikipedia-deletionist-inclusionist Much familiar argument from threads here. Some of the usual suspects commenting, and everyone putting in their two cents. Somewhere in the middle is a debate struggling to get out: is the volume of reversions in