Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-15 Thread William Pietri
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/11/15 William Pietri : > > >> [...] I'm just saying >> that we don't have to speculate; we can run all the ones that don't seem >> blatantly counterproductive, and find out how well they do. Even better, >> we can automatically optimize which we show and how. [...] >>

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ryan Delaney wrote: > I think self-respect is a luxury for us folks who don't have to worry about > meeting fundraising goals. All those servers and all that bandwidth isn't > free. These ads were bad, but they're improving. I think we ought to be > willing to acc

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread geni
2009/11/15 David Gerard : > It is not in fact that easy - because every slogan has to be > translated into a pile of languages (by volunteers), and every banner > has to be tested thoroughly in all translations The foundation doesn't agree with you there. Well that or it has worryingly low standar

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> that we don't have to speculate; we can run all the ones that don't seem >> blatantly counterproductive, and find out how well they do. Even better, > > It is not in fact that easy - because every slogan has to be > translated into a pile of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/15 William Pietri : > David pointed us to a variety of clever slogans written by the public. > Isabell was speculating that most of them wouldn't work. I'm just saying > that we don't have to speculate; we can run all the ones that don't seem > blatantly counterproductive, and find out how

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread William Pietri
Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM, William Pietri wrote: > >> People are doing some interesting work with auto-optimized ad runs that >> we could look at adapting for next year. Given our massive amounts of >> traffic, we could accept a pretty broad range of slogans, and let

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Marc Riddell
on 11/14/09 7:28 PM, Ryan Delaney at ryan.dela...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Marc Riddell > wrote: > > everywhere we can. >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett >> Ew. Is that really what advertising and marketing have been reduced to? Spe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Marc Riddell wrote: > >>> everywhere we can. > >> > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett > > >> Ew. Is that really what advertising and marketing have been reduced > >> to? Spew out whatever random text as long as it gets the $$$? Please > >> let us have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Marc Riddell
>>> everywhere we can. >> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett >> Ew. Is that really what advertising and marketing have been reduced >> to? Spew out whatever random text as long as it gets the $$$? Please >> let us have some self-respect. >> >> Steve >> on 11/14/09 6:54 PM, Ryan Del

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM, William Pietri > wrote: > > People are doing some interesting work with auto-optimized ad runs that > > we could look at adapting for next year. Given our massive amounts of > > traffic, we could accept a pre

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Ian Woollard
No, self-respect in advertising is about not actually lying about the product, making $$$ by whatever cost effective means is what it's always and *only* been about. The only thing I will say about the current campaign, it's not about Wikipedia Forever, it's about Wikipedia until-the-next-fund-rai

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 AM, William Pietri wrote: > People are doing some interesting work with auto-optimized ad runs that > we could look at adapting for next year. Given our massive amounts of > traffic, we could accept a pretty broad range of slogans, and let the > system sort out which ar

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-09 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Isabell Long wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 06:13:14PM +, David Gerard wrote: >> http://identi.ca/tag/wikipediafundraisingslogans >> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wikipediafundraisingslogans > > Some of those are very funny and inventive, though I don't thin

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-09 Thread Elias Friedman
> >"Wikipedia fundraiser: time to put coins in >your factual jukebox." {{cn}} LOL! On 11/9/09, Charles Matthews wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> http://identi.ca/tag/wikipediafundraisingslogans >> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wikipediafundraisingslogans >> >> Mine: "Give us the money or you

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-09 Thread Charles Matthews
David Gerard wrote: > http://identi.ca/tag/wikipediafundraisingslogans > http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wikipediafundraisingslogans > > Mine: "Give us the money or your homework gets it" > > "Wikipedia fundraiser: time to put coins in your factual jukebox." Charles __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-08 Thread William Pietri
Isabell Long wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 06:13:14PM +, David Gerard wrote: > >> http://identi.ca/tag/wikipediafundraisingslogans >> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wikipediafundraisingslogans >> > > Some of those are very funny and inventive, though I don't think the majority > of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-08 Thread Isabell Long
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 06:13:14PM +, David Gerard wrote: > http://identi.ca/tag/wikipediafundraisingslogans > http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wikipediafundraisingslogans Some of those are very funny and inventive, though I don't think the majority of them would really work to be honest, espe

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia fundraising slogans from identi.ca and Twitter

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
http://identi.ca/tag/wikipediafundraisingslogans http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23wikipediafundraisingslogans Mine: "Give us the money or your homework gets it" - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailin