[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-17 Thread Keith Old
Folks, Sorry if this is a duplicate thread but I haven't seen anything about reaching this milestone. The Christian Science Monitor reports/ http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/08/17/wikipedia-blows-past-3-million-english-articles/ "Wikipedia, the upstart social experiment that trusts

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-17 Thread Ray Saintonge
Keith Old wrote: > "Wikipedia, the upstart social experiment that trusts the online mob to > steward world knowledge, has hit a major milestone. > > The English volume of the Web encyclopedia reached its 3 millionth article. > That massive number of whos, whats, wheres, and whens culminated with a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Charles Matthews
Ray Saintonge wrote: > Does my memory deceive me? Or is it true that 2 of the 3 "millionth" > articles related to soap operas? > A Scottish railway station, and the Spanish TV comedy programme [[El Hormiguero]], were what you were thinking of. If you regard Europe as one big historical soap o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread wjhonson
Those crazy Europeans! Why can't they just decide on one language! -Original Message- From: Charles Matthews To: English Wikipedia Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 12:48 am Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article Ray Saintonge wrote: > Does my memory de

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Steve Bennett
I updated the three millionth topic pool: Answer: Beate Eriksen, an obscure Norwegian actress. Winner: Cryptic C62, "Sarah Badel, an obscure actress." Honorable mention: Michael of Lucan, "Norwegian post offices 1943-1985 " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Three-millionth_topic_pool On Tue

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Keith Old wrote: > "Both see the other ruining Wikipedia, either by defeating the point of an > open encyclopedia, or by expanding its “pages” until the site dies from > irrelevance. Wow. That's the worst characterisation of the inclusionist/deletionist struggle I'

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Michael Peel
You may want to take a look at the Guardian blog post: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/aug/17/wikipedia-three- million and also a couple by the Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6042931/Wikipedia- reaches-three-million-articles.html http://www.telegraph.co

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > All of them are better reads than the article in the Christian Science > {{citation needed}} Monitor. Really? The Telegraph one was poor. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6042931/Wikipedia-reaches-three-million-articles.htm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Michael Peel
On 18 Aug 2009, at 18:34, Carcharoth wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Michael Peel > wrote: > > > >> All of them are better reads than the article in the Christian >> Science >> {{citation needed}} Monitor. > > Really? > > The Telegraph one was poor. > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/t

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > * The article describes Britannica as "the oldest English language > encyclopedia". In fact, it is the oldest continuously published > English language encyclopedia. > > Interesting. What was the oldest English language encyclopaedia, then?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Charles Matthews
Michael Peel wrote: > * Wikipedia was launched by Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger, not by Ward > Cunningham and Richard Stallman. > > True, but this is Wikipedia's fault. "The pioneering concept and > technology of Wiki comes from Ward Cunningham, the concept of a free > online encyclopedia from

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Charles Matthews
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1917002,00.html Time magazine ... can't get excited about the whole business really. But why is Wales not James if Sanger is Lawrence? Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Ray Saintonge
Carcharoth wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > > > >> * The article describes Britannica as "the oldest English language >> encyclopedia". In fact, it is the oldest continuously published >> English language encyclopedia. >> >> Interesting. What was the oldest Englis

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > The problem with collecting all these is the space they take up.  I've > just acquired a [[Enciclopedia universal ilustrada europeo-americana]] > with supplements to 1980 for $1.00 per volume :-) ... plus shipping :-( > . I have also been o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/18 Charles Matthews : > Err ... it's Wikipedia's fault if hurried journalists today do nothing > but research on it and misinterpret what they find? Puh-lease. To get > from that to "It was formally launched on January 15 in 2001 by Ward > Cunningham and Richard Stallman" you need to do ple

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread wjhonson
avid Gerard To: charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com; English Wikipedia Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 3:33 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article 2009/8/18 Charles Matthews : > Err ... it's Wikipedia's fault if hurried journalists today do nothing > but research o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > Why not scan them and "store" them at wikisource? Lol. Indeed. Why not scan 200 volumes of an encyclopaedia? For fun, OCR it too.. Steve ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To uns

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread Ray Saintonge
Carcharoth wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > > > >> The problem with collecting all these is the space they take up. I've >> just acquired a [[Enciclopedia universal ilustrada europeo-americana]] >> with supplements to 1980 for $1.00 per volume :-) ... plus shi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Carcharoth wrote: >> Goodness. Yes. That is a large number of volumes. >> >> Why not scan them and "store" them at wikisource? Or are these modern >> encyclopedias rather than old ones? >> > 1,000 pages x 200 volumes = 200,000 pages.  The F

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/19 Carcharoth : > Sure. It will take time. :-) > But once done, you will have space for more! > 200,000 pages at 10 pages a day is 20,000 days, which is 54.79 years. > You might need to crowdsource the scanning. There's cutting the binding off and auto-feeding the stack of pages into a sc

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/17 Keith Old : > The Christian Science Monitor reports/ > http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/08/17/wikipedia-blows-past-3-million-english-articles/ WIKIALITY, The Tenderloin, Saturday -- The online encyclopedia, knowledge base, social networking site, essay repository, blog, se

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread Tracy Poff
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > How do Google Books and libraries and Project Gutenberg and others do > mass scanning and OCR of books? Do they use lots of money and funding > to pay lots of people to do lots of scanning on lots of machines, or > do they automate it in some wa

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread Charles Matthews
Carcharoth wrote: > How do Google Books and libraries and Project Gutenberg and others do > mass scanning and OCR of books? Do they use lots of money and funding > to pay lots of people to do lots of scanning on lots of machines, or > do they automate it in some way? > Google apparently pays pea

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread Emily Monroe
Oh, now THAT'S funny. Smiling, Emily On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:19 AM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/8/17 Keith Old : > >> The Christian Science Monitor reports/ >> http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/08/17/wikipedia-blows-past-3-million-english-articles/ > > > WIKIALITY, The Tenderloin, Saturd

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/19 Emily Monroe : > Oh, now THAT'S funny. I actually looked up Wikipedia's word count. The last estimate is 1.6 billion words. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes "Three million articles" is obviously big. But no-one has a feel for how big that is. OVER A BILLION WORD

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread geni
2009/8/19 David Gerard : > The SOS Children Wikipedia Selection for Schools seems very cut-down, > being only several thousand long articles from Wikipedia on a DVD ... > so about half the size of the full printed Britannica, then. Although we still haven't worked out what size people will general

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread David Goodman
None ever published have approached either our size or our completeness. There is no experience, and no prior basis for public acceptance or non-acceptance. We have made many assumptions about what the public wants, but the public will want different things, and why should we think we can fulfil

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread Emily Monroe
> Perhaps the more rational approach is to do what our structure can > do well, and let other projects in the future try other ways and > other things and other goals. I think this is a great idea. Emily On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:45 PM, David Goodman wrote: > Perhaps the more rational approach

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-22 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, geni wrote: > Although we still haven't worked out what size people will general > accept as a fairly complete general encyclopedia. I think if we had almost every article you would find in a *single volume* encyclopedia up to featured or good status that would be

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-23 Thread geni
2009/8/23 Bod Notbod : > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, geni wrote: > >> Although we still haven't worked out what size people will general >> accept as a fairly complete general encyclopedia. > > I think if we had almost every article you would find in a *single > volume* encyclopedia up to feat

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerard wrote: > I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure > out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would look as > a flat page. Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the scanner comes down a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-09-04 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Charles Matthews wrote: > http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1917002,00.html Interesting. > Time magazine ... can't get excited about the whole business really. But > why is Wales not James if Sanger is Lawrence? Because Larry's given name is Lawren

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-09-04 Thread Tony Sidaway
On 8/18/09, Ray Saintonge wrote: > > The problem with collecting all these is the space they take up. I've > just acquired a [[Enciclopedia universal ilustrada europeo-americana]] > with supplements to 1980 for $1.00 per volume :-) ... plus shipping :-( > . I have also been offered [[Enciclopedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article

2009-09-04 Thread Tony Sidaway
On 8/23/09, Bod Notbod wrote: > I think if we had almost every article you would find in a *single > volume* encyclopedia up to featured or good status that would be a > great foundation. That isn't going to happen, simply because we don't have enough people interested in, or even capable of, th